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Sinaherib

Hello! Have a nice day, everyone!

I want to tell here about a custom campaign for "WarCraft III The Frozen Throne" I'm currently working on. It is a Starfox spin-off, RPG/Adventure-styled campaign "Krystal Adventures".

The story takes place before the events of "Star Fox Adventures" and tells about Krystal's past. It will be connected with the plot of "Adventures" andI I will try to fix some plotholes of SFAd. (such as origin of Sauria's ruins, Andross' appearance on the planet and some others) I also use characters from original "Dinosaur Planet" - Sabre and Randorn. Krystal and Sabre will be the main playable characters.

Of course, this project is not Sci-fi, it is much closer to fantasy style of "Adventures".

I've finished the first map already, so it can be considered as a demo-version. The map can be downloaded on "Krystal Archive", http://krystalarchiv...ronekrystalmod/ I'm very thankful to Mr.Krystal for posting it there. It reqiures WarCraft III TFT v.1.26a or higher.

Since I'm not native English-speaker, dialogs and descriptions may look rough and I will be grateful for any help in the improvement of the text.

Also I would appreciate if anyone helps me with the voice acting.

This is the news I wanted to tell you. I hope you like this project and I'm open to any critiques, suggestions or questions.

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Dublinthefox

I remember seeing this on the Krystal Archive. Looks pretty cool.

Also Welcome to SF-O Sinaherib! I remember you from DA! :D

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Sinaherib

I remember seeing this on the Krystal Archive. Looks pretty cool.

Also Welcome to SF-O Sinaherib! I remember you from DA! :D

Thank you very much! I remember you too! :-)

Yes, I even uploaded some earlier screenshots on DA but I didn't want to post more info anywhere else until I had more finished material.

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The Shaper

I have to say that sounds pretty interesting. A SFAd mod for Warcraft III. Would they have custom lines or recycled from the game?

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Scourge

awesome, now i have a reason to install warcraft 3 again

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Sinaherib

I have to say that sounds pretty interesting. A SFAd mod for Warcraft III. Would they have custom lines or recycled from the game?

Thank you. I'm sorry, what lines do you mean?

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The Shaper

Thank you. I'm sorry, what lines do you mean?

I mean are there going to be lines from voice actors and such or just stock lines from Adventures re-used.

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Sinaherib

I mean are there going to be lines from voice actors and such or just stock lines from Adventures re-used.

Well, since this this mod is a prequel to SFAd, it has custom storyline and I can't use old lines from Adventures. I'm going to add voices to the game and currently looking for voice actors to help me dub the dialogs.

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Gene Inari

Very cool, now I'm glad a friend let me have his copy of the game. :U

And what kind of voicing roles need to be filled?

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Sinaherib

Very cool, now I'm glad a friend let me have his copy of the game. :U

And what kind of voicing roles need to be filled?

Here is the list of main roles:

1)Krystal - main playable character

2)Sabre - warrior, second playable character

3)Randorn - old wizard (sometimes playable, but not very often)

4)Andross

5)Kreldok - warlord, one of main antagonists. A worked over version of General Scales actually

6)Kazragor - another antagonist. An old warlock, Kreldok's sidekick

7)Balrias - wizard, leader of council

Also there are many minor characters. For the first map I need:

1)Trolls (male)

2)Dryads and their leader Ariana (female)

3)Sorcerer (male)

4)Shallow Ones (fishmen, male and female) and their leader Pha'Tley (male)

5)Talking Oak (male)

6)Satyrs and their leader Hatur (male)

7)Greenskins - (orcs actually. They are also worked out analog of SharpClaws, male)

8)Forest Wisps and several other spirits (I'll also need Krazoa spirits for the next maps)

9)Gabargo - anthro bear (male)

9)Several other forest creatures (male)

10)Wartuonians (anthro canines, male and female)

I can voice several characters myself but that's not enough, of course

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Xortberg

Dude, I will totally voice act for the trolls. And any of the other minor roles, if you need me for them. For the record, I have no voice acting experience. If that's a problem, I totally understand.

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Sinaherib

Dude, I will totally voice act for the trolls. And any of the other minor roles, if you need me for them. For the record, I have no voice acting experience. If that's a problem, I totally understand.

That is not a problem! Can you make some test voice acting recordings and send it to me? I can send you some game texts

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Vy'drach

Out of curiousity, are you planning on doing anything like this for other characters afterwards?

Say perhaps, Andross. We got to play as Arthas in his descent from a Prince and a Paladin fighting to save his homeland and his people, to being the Lich King, leader of the undead Scourge and the very thing he sought to destroy.

I imagine Andross' descent from a prominent scientist to one of the greatest threats the Lylat system has ever encountered would be interesting, too.

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Xortberg

That is not a problem! Can you make some test voice acting recordings and send it to me? I can send you some game texts

Of course I can. Send me your lines, and how any instructions on how you'd like them spoken, and I'll give it a shot. Hopefully I don't disappoint :-)

EDIT: I also noticed you said you aren't a native English speaker, so you'd like help cleaning up the in-game text and whatnot. I'd also be willing to proofread anything you'd like me too. I'm generally good at writing, so if you'd like my help with that I'll do it.

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Sinaherib

Of course I can. Send me your lines, and how any instructions on how you'd like them spoken, and I'll give it a shot. Hopefully I don't disappoint :-)

EDIT: I also noticed you said you aren't a native English speaker, so you'd like help cleaning up the in-game text and whatnot. I'd also be willing to proofread anything you'd like me too. I'm generally good at writing, so if you'd like my help with that I'll do it.

Great, I will be very grateful if you help me with in-game text! Can you note me your e-mail, please?

Out of curiousity, are you planning on doing anything like this for other characters afterwards?

Say perhaps, Andross. We got to play as Arthas in his descent from a Prince and a Paladin fighting to save his homeland and his people, to being the Lich King, leader of the undead Scourge and the very thing he sought to destroy.

I imagine Andross' descent from a prominent scientist to one of the greatest threats the Lylat system has ever encountered would be interesting, too.

That sounds interesting! However, if I start working on something like that, it won't be soon. I must work hard on "Krystal Adventures" now and can't say for sure how long it will take to finish it yet. What will be next - we'll see! Anyway, an idea about Andross sounds good. Btw, he will play rather big role in "KA".

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Nope.

This actually looks cool. Sadly though, I don't own a copy of that game.

MUST GET ONE!

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Sinaherib

Thanks for the support! :-)

Currently working on the second map. Here you can see some beta screenshots from it.

NOTE: I'm using Fox McCloud's skin for Sabre, so don't be surprised.

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In this mod I want to realize the idea of two playable characters, who supplement each other. First of all, Krystal is a long-range character, while Sabre is a melee fighter. Aslo, during the game they both get special abilities, which can be used in combat, but also help in passing different obstacles. On several maps Randorn will assist them.

About voice acting: I'm still searching for the voice actress for Krystal. :krystal:

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Sinaherib

It is about time to make an update.

I've finished the second map\level called "Acid Swamps" and working on the next one - "Snowfileds of Wartuon". These two levels belong to the two types of maps. "Acid Swamps" is a tunnel-like map, which characters have to cross from one end to another, avoiding obstacles and traps, defeating enemies and solving puzzles.

"Snowfields of Wartuon" is a more RPG-styled map. Heroes are free to visit different parts of the big map, they talk to NPC and carry out required and optional quests. However, obstacles, enemies and puzzles take place too. :-)

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I'm trying to use maximum of WorldEditor to make gameplay as various as possible. For example, in the "Acid Swamps" I place foes which have poisoning and cursing attacks, also if characters enter local water they get damage, so they have to avoid it.

Here is another example from the next map. Polar bears are fast creatures, who cause big damage but they have little health.

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Mammoths have strong armour, big damage, but they are very slow.

Of course, there is nothing new in such decisions, but they still work.

Also, in the "Acid Swamps" I made a Krazoa Shrine and workable Test of Observation!

Going to post more info soon. Have a good time everyone!

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Sinaherib

Here are several videos from next levels "Acid Swamps" and "Snowfileds of Wartuon". Some game models are rough, also I still have to make a model for Krazoa Spirit (I'm using standart model for Wisp from WarCraft currently), still I'm going to fix it all.

VIDEOS:

Krystal inside Krazoa Shrine, passing Test of Observation

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An example of cooperation between Krystal and Sabre

Some scenes from "Snowfileds"

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One of the troubles I faced during work is the size of the maps (about 100Mb each), which also doesn't let me gather all levels into one campaign, (to make new level automatic begin after the previous ends) at the moment each new level must be selected from "WarCraft" main menu. One of the mian reason is music imported from SFAd, however, I don't want to use default WarCraft default music, because it will have a negative effect on the game atmosphere.

The work goes on. By the end of summer I'm going to upload all completed levels.

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Vy'drach

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Also, three things. One, are you planning on working on the weapon models so Krystal's staff is accurate and Sabre isn't using Frostmourne, the soul-devouring blade? Two, are you planning on messing with their actual abilities so they make a tad more sense? And three, I hope you find a voice actor (actress) for at least Krystal, as I can't stand Jainna (due to the Warcraft lore), and her voice can be a tad irksome.

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Sinaherib

Also, three things. One, are you planning on working on the weapon models so Krystal's staff is accurate and Sabre isn't using Frostmourne, the soul-devouring blade? Two, are you planning on messing with their actual abilities so they make a tad more sense? And three, I hope you find a voice actor (actress) for at least Krystal, as I can't stand Jainna (due to the Warcraft lore), and her voice can be a tad irksome.

1.I think I will. It really looks wierd that Sabre uses dark sword with skulls and bones on it. I've currently paused working on modeling, because Krystal's and Sabre's models are suitable enough for game and in summer I want to concentrate on creating levels. Later, however, I'm going to improve heroes' models and also I want to create several more - Krazoa Spirits and Krazoa statues, Andross, perhaps some else.

2.I plan to make their abilities bear some resemblance with SFAd abilities and also to make them useful in non-battle situations. For example, I gave Krystal frost attack becasue her staff had ice ability in SFAd. Besides battles it can be used to extinguish fire, I've already tested it and it works. Or her other ability - to create protective shields - can help characters to pass thfough some deadly zones. I'm working much on their abilities and I want them to be more than just battle skills.

3.I've already found some actors for male characters and for some female, but unfortunately Krystal still doesn't have an actress. I have some possibe variants but it is too uncertain at the moment. So, I still have to use default WarcCraft voices and Jaina's sounds young enough and her phrases sound rather neutral, without specific WarCraft words (such as "Lordaeron" etc) I hope I'll find an actress soon and then I'll finally be able to create first dubbed versions of the maps.

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      Whether you call her Viviane, Ninianne, Nyneve, or the name I prefer, Nimue, the Lady of the Lake is one of the most, if not the most important plot point in Arthurian Legend aside from Excalibur, having given the aforementioned sword to the King of Knights himself. She is an inhabitant (if not ruler) of the isle of Avalon, in possession of inhuman beauty and tremendous and mysterious powers. This parallel with Krystal is self-explanatory. The two character roles overlap quite well, but for two points: 1. Arthur was actively looking for Nimue and Excalibur in particular quite deliberately, while Fox had stumbled upon the Staff quite by accident, and 2. While Nimue was quite free in her actions and willingly helped Arthur in person, Krystal was at this point imprisoned and only able to barely contact Fox through telepathy. Otherwise the stories align: both heroines have supernatural capabilities of unspecified extent, both relinquish a weapon they have in their possession to the hero to use in his quest (Nimue gives Excalibur, Krystal her Staff), and both are of some status on their homelands (Nimue rules Avalon, and it is generally agreed that judging by her clothes and equipment, her family was high-ranking or even nobility on Cerinia).
      3.Morgan le Fay.
      Oh, Morgan. Angry at her brother for perceived slights, she goes out of her way to make the King's life miserable however she can. Where to begin? While the reasons vary across the legends, she feels slighted by either Arthur (in proxy of his father Uther who killed Morgan's father Gorlois and impregnated his wife Igrayne with Arthur), Guinevere (for banishing her from Camelot for varied reasons, mostly adultery), or even both. She seeks revenge in many ways, but the two that tie to Krystal the most are her theft and loss of Excalibur's Scabbard, and her aid in exposing the affair between Lancelot and Guinevere. These two actions both personally screw Arthur over royally (no pun intended) and shatters the Round Table in one fell swoop. However,  she reconciles with Arthur in the end and in some legends even helps escort her mortally wounded brother to Avalon, going so far as to proclaim him "The Once and Future King" in one version. Her story probably aligns best with Krystal's later roles, during Star Fox Command. Like Morgan, Krystal feels betrayed and slighted by Fox drumming her out of the team out of paranoia over her safety, and at this point she seems to channel all the anger, scorn and downright stubbornness that Morgan was also known for. Depending on the route you take in the game, she joins Star Wolf and books up with Panther to stoke Fox's jealousy, and even steals his chance to kill the Anglar King, while publicly proclaiming her allegiance to Star Wolf and Panther, which screws the Star Fox team over and crushes Fox's spirit entirely. However, she is vilified for her actions and runs away, assuming a new identity, the jaded bounty hunter Kursed. In other routes she reconciles with Fox and gets back together with him again, just like Morgan reconciles with Arthur. It is an interesting thing that the two characters have such similar reactions to their respective misfortunes.
      Just has Krystal has similarities to certain mythological figures, her Staff harkens back to a number of magical and famous weapons in Celtic myth. Two in particular that stand out are Brionac, the Spear of Lugh and Rhongomyniad, King Arthur's war lance. Brionac is one of the legendary Four Jewels of the Tuatha de Dannan, and is said to make its wielded nigh invincible. It is also said to overcome its targets with fire, which goes into the Fire Blaster. As the Staff looks more like a spear, and seems to indeed convey the image of invincibility, Brionac's legend ties together with the Cerinian weapon quite well. Rhongomyniad was the lance wielded by King Arthur, most well known for being the weapon that took the life of Sir Mordred at the battle of Camlann. It was told that no matter how tough the armor of the Knight of Treachery was, it could never resist the holy lance, an existence on par with Excalibur. Some compare it to the Spear of Destiny, which pierced the Messiah. Like Rhongomyniad, the Staff is quite strong, able to pierce most defenses, such as when Fox pierced the thick, hardened skull of the RedEye King, not an easy task by any means. Also, with its repertoire of powers like fire blasts, force fields, miniquakes and rocket boosts can easily lead one to assume that it is indeed a holy weapon, if one considers a combination of the Four Classical Elements to be "holy".
      Finally, Cerinia itself can be compared to the mythical Avalon, as both seem to be magical or at least wondrous places that not much can be known about -- Avalon being separate from the mortal realm, and Cerinia being destroyed according to the Star Fox canon.
      So that's it. You may ask, "Huh!? What was this overly long dissertation supposed to do!?" Well , my answer is that I noticed the similarities mentioned above, found them interesting, and decided to make my findings known. Whether the similarities were made in purpose by the game creators, particularly in Adventures, or they just came to be pure chance, I do not know, but I believe the former. For evidence, I do not have much, except for two points: A) Rare was based in Britain, which is the central point for the Arthurian Legends, and B) let it be remembered that the entire Star Fox series came to be because Shigeru Miyamoto was inspired by the Fox statues and took arches at the Fushimi Inari shrine. Ultimately, however, what I want is your opinion, dear readers. What do you all think of my reasonings?  Please comment!
    • jordansweeto
      By jordansweeto
      Hey all!

      I want to start a Krystal support team so I thought I'd pitch the idea here.
      Me and a bunch of other people on Twitter have started a group in hopes to unify as many Krystal fans as possible, because I've realized that there are SO many Krystal supporters online but they are so scattered and quiet. I think it's important for us to be all commenting together about support for Krystal and 'liking' each other's comments on Youtube/Facebook (extremely important because it means Nintendo themselves WILL see it)

      I think on Nintendo's official Youtube and Facebook pages are the best places to do these "unified comments", if they continue to see the support for her (and Star Fox Assault, because it signifies not only Krystal's inclusion but also the actual potential for growth the SF series has) then they may take our support into consideration when making a new SF game!

      I wanted to see if anyone on here wanted to be involved with us actively commenting/liking Krystal related posts on YouTube.
      I can update this thread with links of videos we'll be targeting for this "unified support" It will really help with our cause and if you are a Krystal supporter then this is a really efficient way of showing that support/increasing her odds of returning to the series in general!

      Please let me know if any of you are interested!