DZComposer Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 The original idea for Star Fox was based on British Puppet dramas like The Thunderbirds. Miyamoto had mentioned liking that style. Even planets were name after puppet shows (Papetoon was named after Puppetoon, a type of puppetry made famous by George Pal).Lately, Nintendo has been experimenting with unusual art styles. You had Kirby's Epic Yarn, which featured Kirby draw with pieces of yarn. This was developed further with Yoshi's Woolly World with a crochet look to everything but the piranha plants. And we also have Kirby and the Rainbow Curse which looks like everything is made of clay.What if the new Star Fox game's art style looked like puppetry? The Wii U is Nintendo's first console that could do it convincingly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 I think Miyamoto brought up Thunderbirds when he was talking about Star Fox U as well, so it's very possible that they'd go that route. It would be cool, lord knows the series could use an artstyle update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 I just saw that. It really seems like Miyamoto sees the chance to create his original vision for Star Fox. He's brought up "TV shows" several times, and you're right, he did mention the Thunderbirds specifically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 If it was puppet-like, that would be a much welcomed change. But I'm also wary because sometimes these puppet things can be creepy, so there would need to be a balance between normal style anthro and puppet style anthro that won't look like nightmare fuel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 The Fantastic Mr. Fox but a video game in space, basically. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Oh man I'd be all excite for this. Especially if they cranked in as much old school anime space opera tropes as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 That guy at 0:16 looks like Andross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Draco Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Well we got the SNES Star Fox team as puppets already. The thing about the Thunderbirds is that Miyamoto not only wants Star Fox to be a more episodic story line, much like Thunderbirds was, but also filled with more unique mecha (note: in Japan mecha means more than giant robots and can include spaceships, aircraft, etc.) like the Thunderbirds team had. We saw this with the various unique Arwings and mothership in Star Fox 2 and in 64 with the Great Fox, Arwing, Landmaster, and Blue Marine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patch93 Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 As long as they actually make them look good and don't mess it up like they did back in 1993, I'm cool with the idea. it's definitely possible since technology has advanced since then and they can use CGI to render them. I still think this would be the best ideal design for Fox in a new game though; '> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Chris Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 I could get used to this idea, though I'd rather they didn't but what evs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazerMaster5 Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 I think it would be cool to see them experiment with different ideas, as long as the final game is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Redd Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'd much rather they didn't make it like a puppet programme. I've never been one for puppet stuff. Although be that as it may, even if it was like a puppet programme, I'd still definitely buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfinitySquared Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I always thought the Starfox puppets looked like tacky repurposed lawn décor. Heck, growing up, our next-door neighbors had a creepy statue on their walkway that was almost identical to the Fox puppet on the cover of the SNES game, albeit in a jockey's uniform. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they were just modified lawn statues. Also, puppets are like clowns. Maybe Miyamoto, who grew up in 1950s Japan, found them cute and endearing, but I think anyone anywhere who grew up after the 1960s (the time of the John Wayne Gacy killings and the Chucky movies) is pretty skeeved out by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoprimedonna Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Sorry for posting in the abandoned threads, but I just looked this up. So where did the furries idea come from??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they were just modified lawn statues.They weren't. They were functional puppets: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyLady Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) On 11/28/2014 at 9:48 PM, DZComposer said: They weren't. They were functional puppets: Yes, this is quite true. But i have a feeling that these puppets also serve as fur suits. I was roaming the beautiful world of the internet until I've discovered an image I've never seen, maybe not one person, even. This was something I wanted to solve the longest for myself and others, so let me shine the searchlight on this image of the functional puppet featured in the video, exclusive to this website-> https://cgworld.jp/interview/1502-entry010-admiration.html This one is completely different from the one with DEM LEGS! So...My theory now is that they made 2 types, I suppose? hmm...if they brought these back for a commercial, let it be Star Fox 2... Edited January 26, 2020 by Fapples "Furpet?" Man I've been up too late 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Nice photo find! Suppose it makes sense they made a second one for the commercials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyLady Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Yes does seem fair to say. Speaking of commercials, heheheheh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted September 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Sorry for the bump, I'm not very active here anymore. Anyway, this is quite an interesting find. Not sure how that puppet can be a suit, though, unless it is intended for a small child, though it does appear to be mounted on a helmet. Though one of the things AP Films did with the Thunderbirds for some shots was to have an actor reach in front of the puppet to make it seem like the puppet had fully functional hands. Given that AP Films was Miyamoto's inspiration, I'm thinking this is what they did, especially after re-watching the video. Interesting to see that Takashi Yamazaki was involved with these puppets. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 The commerical puppet does seem to lack hands, so they were probably meant for a physical actor to use yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyLady Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 On 9/19/2017 at 11:07 AM, DZComposer said: intended for a small child Lol that child must have a deep voice then XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyLady Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 I'm just going to safely assume that this is a super hyped bunraku puppet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwert Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 On 11/26/2014 at 6:39 PM, geoprimedonna said: Sorry for posting in the abandoned threads, but I just looked this up. So where did the furries idea come from??? Almost a decade late, but the story I've heard is that the Fushimi Inari-taisha shrine was close to where Nintendo was based, with rows and rows of gates. Spoiler And at the end of these gates sits a fox. Spoiler And then the term "Fighting like dogs and monkeys" was thrown around, which is like the equivalent of "cats and dogs". So that became General Pepper and Andross. I'll take an excerpt from a Eurogamer article to explain the rest: "The aerial shooter's arches, through which Arwings fly, reminded Miyamoto of Japanese shrine gates, and in particular one often linked with the imagery of a fox. A baseball team near his former studio who used this imagery was also named the Foxes. "So it was the English word 'fox' from the start." The game's other animal races were derived from Japanese folk tales, except for Slippy Toad. He was inspired by a former member of staff. "There was a staff member who used a toad like a personal mascot," Miyamoto explained, "always writing 'ribbit, ribbit' and such on memos."" But yeah, hope this notification on a decade old thread finds you well! I should definitely dig into more of the games development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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