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Starfox Adventures thoughts

Is this game good?  

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Cryote

Adventures was also my favorite. I loved the music, atmophere, and graphics of the game (seriously, I was freaking the christ out over how you could see every individual hair of Fox's freaking face. But that was then). The music kicked so much ass. The video Redeemer posted in my intro thread (The Metro Rock) I had to rock out to and reminisce for at least 10 minutes.

 

I initially shared Fox's 'why couldn't I bring my blaster?!' frustration, but obviously it would've added an element to the game that would've made it even more boring. Yes, I think making Adventures a rooty-tooty-point-and-shooty game would've made it worse. I liked having to adapt to a 'low-tech' form  of combat and force Fox to step out of his comfort zone. The puzzles and melee combat I really liked as a result of this.

 

Now, as for Krystal. Don't neccessarily have a problem with her. I don't. Why? Because I understand. Star Fox Adventures was supposed to be a seperate game. Krystal's game. But it was bought  and they kept her in. She had the potential to be an awesome character. I really think so. She just wasn't well thought out in the end. Now that I think about it, I agree with Who Knows. If Krystal replaced Tricky, I think it would've done so much more for her development. That, and it could've added a tag-team system for more intricate puzzles and combat.

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LazerMaster5

I want to chop Tricky's whiny little head off. "I'm hungry." Catch your own food, you lazy fuck.

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Redeemer

I want to chop Tricky's whiny little head off. "I'm hungry." Catch your own food, you lazy fuck.

 

He's still a baby you meanie, his mother would usually do that for him.

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Patch93

Y'know looking at the game's beta footage when it was still Dinosaur Planet, it really pains me to know how great this game could've been. Had Nintendo left it alone as it was, had Rare not been bought out by Microsoft and were given more time to develop the game, it along with Banjo-Threeie and Conker's Other Bad Fur Day could have been killer apps for the Gamecube and three of the best games for the system.

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StarFoxfan-FUR_ever

I think of Adventures as the kind of game you enjoy watching someone else play, watching them suffer from glitching through the floor, or painfully trying to make sense of the story arcs. Ultimately, it's fun to make fun of everything wrong with it, so you get to enjoy it in a way it wasn't meant to be enjoyed.

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Giladen

SF Adventures was a game set to screw up. Aonuma Zelda has never been all that as a genre.

 

Honestly, if SF had no other options but to make going on-foot more prominent, then a better route would have been to make SF GC more of an action-shooter like the Ratchet and Clank games. That is also free of anything from Dinosaur Planet's setting.

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Blaze the Sage

Without reading the majority of the topic, all I'll say is this.  It was fun to play through the first time, if frustrating at one or two points.  However, it's obvious throughout the entire game that it was never meant to be a Star Fox game - and of course, we're all familiar with the story of how it legitimately was not originally intended to be one until surprisingly late in development.

 

As a result, we got Star Fox in an unfamiliar genre, with somewhat sub-par Arwing sequences, a bait-and-switch from what could have been a really cool staff-based boss fight into a rehashed boss battle using said sub-par Arwing mechanics, and Krystal shoved from one of two playable characters to a classic Damsel-in-Distress. It also introduced story elements that are rather heavily out-of-place in the Star Fox universe, such as the Dinosaur tribes (keeping in mind, this is a universe of anthropomorphic characters), magic, spirits, and all that nonsense. The telepathy from Krystal is acceptable due to some of the lore around Andross, but she herself got turned into nothing but fanservice, which is frankly an insult to what could have been an interesting character. Instead, we got a blue furry chick with telepathy and a backstory that was completely forgotten and ignored once she met Fox and turned into a no-personality awkward love interest.

 

It was a decent game, a fairly fun adventure sort of puzzle game.  But great?  No - it borrows (badly) from Zelda with less content (so it feels, at least) and without adding anything meaningful to the formula.  A good Star Fox game?  Oh heavens, no - Dinosaur Planet was not created to be a Star Fox game. Star Fox was shoved in at the last minute, and it shows in many ways.  I hesitate to call it a Star Fox game at all because frankly... it really isn't.  It's a decent adventure-puzzle game with the Star Fox logo painted on it, but... that's it.

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InfinitySquared

Graphics-In all honesty, this game holds up in this respect. The fur effect on Fox looks good today, and was fairly mindblowing back then. This game was the first game that I played on our family's then-new 65" piano-sized HDTV, and it was just surreal. Compared to other games of the day with "mind-blowing" graphics (Final Fantasy X, Sly Cooper & The Thievius Raccoonus, GTA 3, and Halo), it undoubtedly holds up the best. The rest are just blocky, murky messes. On a modern, professionally calibrated flatscreen, it's a bit less-than-impressive, and it does show it's age with some annoying color/brightness issues (especially in any dark levels, like the airship or the caverns) and low-res graphics and effects. But it's also almost 14 years old, so I'll let it slide.

 

Controls/Gameplay-For the most part, not bad. They're your standard adventure game features, nothing amazing. It definitely could have done with less or more flying stages. The bag is a little annoying, especially with lower resolution graphics that make it hard to see what you're picking. Fox controls pretty well, and Tricky surprisingly does a good job of keeping up with him. The magic staff thing is a fairly decent multipurpose weapon, although the blaster would've been sooooo much better for fighting. Variety is not this game's strong suit. The most heinous gameplay aspect is when you have to aim the staff at anything. Simply put, it's incredibly wonky, like a drunk 80 year old man with severe cerebral palsy and Parkinsons shaky, and makes what should be simple tasks like shooting 4 buttons within 30 seconds a true test of patience and character. The game is definitely a slog, with lots of tedious tasks and running around solving puzzles. 

 

Plot-It's...well it's not great. Obviously, the development hell and obvious shoe-horning leads to some very strange twists that go nowhere, and plot holes abound. Krystal's origins aren't really explained, and in one scene, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0HK2YClYLReRzQxaWJRVGQ2N00'>this happens. There are some parts that seem very underdeveloped or underused, like the rivalries between the dinosaur tribes or the origins of General Scales or technology conflicts. The other members of Starfox are rather absent for the most part, only being seen in the menu or flying stages. General Pepper's also shockingly careless for sending Fox into an unknown planet without any sort of weapon. I know it's supposed to establish Fox as young and reckless, but that's just...frankly that's on par with invading Russia in the winter-level stupid.

 

Voice-acting-It's fairly obvious that all the VA's are British. I mean, they sound passably American (let's just ignore the weird questions that brings up), but why not just get Americans or have them have British accents? The NPC's all have jolly ol' English accents, except for that one tribe that sounds Hispanic for some reason. But overall, the voice acting's pretty realistic and expressive, if a bit awkward at some points (see "HOW DO YOU KNOW KRYSTAL?"). It's a middle ground between Assault's monotone grimdark and 64's beautiful camp. It does veer a bit on the campy side in my book, but you can tell it's trying to be serious. Tricky's not nearly as annoying as I used to think he was, but Peppy and Slippy are just as annoying as I remember (Peppy being a stereotypical old man, and Slippy being...whatever they're trying to go for with him).

 

Overall, it's not THAT bad. But if you have to say it's not that bad, it really IS that bad. I like it more now than I did when I was a kid, but it's still not that great. It's a love-it-or-hate-it game that I happen to be neutral on.

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teamnotcrash

We recently did a full Lp of the game on our channel. I think its a super tedious game that has way to much back tracking and the ending was a huge let down as the character they hyped up was just thrown away. A game that i think could of been much more enjoyable had star fox not been shoved into its production. 

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Arn-Hahhhad

Pretty good but why couldn't we fight Scales...or why couldn't we punch/attack with anything but the Staff?

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valkiriforce

I really enjoyed adventures...what I like most about it is that it has the most personality out of all the Star Fox games. You have those moments with Fox McCloud getting frustrated when he doesn't understand what a dinosaur was saying, his introduction in the game where he swings in a half-circle blasting rock music like a dude and slightly headbanging to it (hello avatar) those moments for me I'd say make it a much richer experience than the other games in the franchise when it comes to character. Comparing that with very generalized one-liners like, "You won't get me this time!" it just doesn't do much for me.

Aside from that it's obviously very Zelda-like, and at the time I wasn't really big on Zelda games but I still appreciated it. It's very likely I'm just biased and found the Star Fox universe itself interesting enough that I wanted to learn more about it regardless whether people considered it a true Star Fox title or not. It's also one of the only few games I've ever bought a strategy guide for and I actually still have it to this day. So I enjoyed it enough to be able to complete the game and I wouldn't mind revisiting it one day.

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fanfictiondreamer

I enjoy listening to his voice and looking at him makes me scream like a fan girl. He is just so awesome in this game. This is undoubtedly my favorite game incarnation of him. For me, no other appearance he has, had or will have will ever compare because it is so unique to me.

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