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One of many plot holes surronding Krystal's "background"...


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Okay. So we all know that :banghead: is from the "doomed planet of Cerinia" (whatever that means :wink:). But, something occurred to me recently. It's a stretch, but an interesting explanation for her homeworld.

Although it isn't proved, most people assume that :morning:'s staff is also from Cerinia, because it matches her clothes and the markings on her fur (which also can't be proved to be from Cerinia).

For our purposes, let's say the staff is from Cerinia. Let's think of some connections to stuff we know is canon, shall we?

1) There are many stations that can upgrade the staff underground on SAURIA.

2) The staff's energy levels can be replenished by gems/nectar stuff found on SAURIA.

3) There are doors that can be opened with the staff on SAURIA.

4) There are random holes in the ground that can be used for the staff's "rocket boost" on SAURIA.

5) There are switches that can be triggered using the various abilities of the staff on SAURIA.

6) Yada yada... And so on... More reasons...

Now, let's think of Krystal!

1) She can speak Dino (provided she didn't just telepathically learn it).

2) She can channel Krazoa Spirits (not just carrying them, like Fox could)

3) Another important reason but I can't show it because it's a spoiler...

Of course, all of the above reasons, could be easily destroyed by one obvious reason.

SF: Adventures is a game... And it was revolved around staff combat and puzzles...

But! In the Star Fox universe, it's not a game! It's real to them. So, the only logically (not really) reason I could think of is!

*dramatic drum roll and noises*

Sauria must actually be Cerinia! Or at least a chunk of it, or a remodeled version! And the reason it's falling apart must be the reason Krystal left in the first place!!

... Well, it sounded cool to me... What do you guys think?  :mod:

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Oh boy do I have a lot of explaining to do. *sighs, cracks knuckles*

1: If you ever noticed, whenever you got a new staff power it said that you LEARNED it. So in the story Fox may have just learned the different  moves over periods of time.

2: You ever considered that the staff may run off of different energy sources, and not just the gems in particular?

3: Dude, have you ever heard of picking a lock?

4: In the story Fox could probably use that feature whenever he wanted. Nintendo just limited it to pads so that people wouldn't be flying all over the place.

5: The staff does have the ability's to activate those switches, but so could other things. (Such as a Blaster)

Krystal

1: You hit it right on the nail. Krystal is a telepath. So that means she could understand what dinosaurs were

saying, even without hearing them speak. Thus this helped her to understand the language better. Plus Krystal has shown herself to be a fast learner.

2: Well that's the reason Andross lured her to the planet, because he knew she could channel the spirits.

None of these questions you asked show that Krystal is native to Sauria. As a matter of fact, many things point that Krystal isn't native to Sauria, but that's for another post.

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That's a fun little theory you have there, Zwolf. I didn't see your conclusion coming, though. I thought that perhaps you were going to say Krystal's lived on Sauria for a while. You're probably going to get a bunch of "nuh uh!" replies to your statement, and this is one of them.

I'm going to take a more "metagame" approach to debunking this than Falcory, if you don't mind.

Wanna know why the staff had all those abilities on Sauria and had gems that replenished its energy? Because the gameplay centered around the staff and it would've been really boring without new abilities for it and really frustrating without the ability to recharge it (though infinite energy would've been fun).

Also, keep in mind that Krystal actually WAS from Dinosaur Planet (though she was a cat, not a vixen) until they changed it from "Dinosaur Planet" to "StarFox Adventures." There was a lot of last-minute patchwork to make the game into a StarFox game, which ultimately messed up much of the tried-and-true StarFox gameplay (it was an interesting idea, but it resembled Zelda too much and was ridiculously easy), made Krystal a "backseat" character, put tons of plot holes not just in Krystal's backstory but also the story of StarFox Adventures in general, and mitigated General Scales's role by throwing in Andross instead.

So here's my answer: The reason all those coincidences exist is because there just wasn't that much thought put into the game. Like I said, it's an interesting theory, but you're reading -way- too deeply into it.

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Actually Samantha, Krystal was from the planet Animas in the original Dinosaur planet. That's why I find it hard to believe that Nintendo would change the story to that she did live on Sauria in Adventures.

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Krystal was originaly from cerinian and she was either Raised ont Sauria after age2or5 or lived near Sauria since she had close ties with the cloud runners

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They could have been near each other and they just hapened to visit each other alot.

You are also forgeting the very real possablity that the staff is one of mcguyvers bones.

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1: If you ever noticed, whenever you got a new staff power it said that you LEARNED it. So in the story Fox may have just learned the different moves over periods of time.

2: Well that's the reason Andross lured her to the planet, because he knew she could channel the spirits.

1) If you go back to Krystal's "recorded message", she talks about Spirit Caves that can UPGRADE that staff, not teach Fox how to use it.

2) The initial reason of why Krystal is on Sauria isn't given, but the reason she went to the Krazoa Temple was a distress signal, not Andross. It's never proven that Andross pushed Krystal into the beam. Point being, she screamed, "You!" when she noticed her assailant, where I agree with Mr. Krystal that it was probably Scales, but that's beside the point.

I didn't really think that this would be a legit consideration for canon, I just thought it was an interesting way to look at it. I'm looking at all the facts like it's been analyzed by Slippy or something, not someone playing the game. Like... What's a good way to explain it.

Let's say, Star Fox Wii is out, and they finally decided to dedicate some much needed screen time to Krystal. So, they go back and explain her background. Someone explaining it would connect the facts the way it SEEMS real to them, in the Star Fox universe, not just as basic game mechanics.

Outside gamer's perspective: The staff needs to recharge, so obviously there will be some method of recharging it on the only planet that I can play on.

Fox's perspective: Why does SAURIA have these plants that are related to Krystal's staff, hm?

Get what I mean now?

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They could have been near each other and they just hapened to visit each other alot.

You are also forgeting the very real possablity that the staff is one of mcguyvers bones.

1) That's what I'm saying! The two have to be related somehow.

2) ...Bones? Wha?...  :panther:

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1) If you go back to Krystal's "recorded message", she talks about Spirit Caves that can UPGRADE that staff, not teach Fox how to use it.

2) The initial reason of why Krystal is on Sauria isn't given, but the reason she went to the Krazoa Temple was a distress signal, not Andross. It's never proven that Andross pushed Krystal into the beam. Point being, she screamed, "You!" when she noticed her assailant, where I agree with Mr. Krystal that it was probably Scales, but that's beside the point.

I didn't really think that this would be a legit consideration for canon, I just thought it was an interesting way to look at it. I'm looking at all the facts like it's been analyzed by Slippy or something, not someone playing the game. Like... What's a good way to explain it.

Let's say, Star Fox Wii is out, and they finally decided to dedicate some much needed screen time to Krystal. So, they go back and explain her background. Someone explaining it would connect the facts the way it SEEMS real to them, in the Star Fox universe, not just as basic game mechanics.

Outside gamer's perspective: The staff needs to recharge, so obviously there will be some method of recharging it on the only planet that I can play on.

Fox's perspective: Why does SAURIA have these plants that are related to Krystal's staff, hm?

Get what I mean now?

Oh i'm sorry I misunderstood...Well Saying that the staff is saurian clearly makes sence(In the case of the game) ,but Krystal being the telepath may not neeed the energy from the plants on sauria.I think that just like her Didem's jem(Tiara or whatever) is a focus crystal for energy ,but thats just me ,but the same could apply for the staff thus Krystal could easly use her own energy to charge the staff.
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Krystal was originaly from cerinian and she was either Raised ont Sauria after age2or5 or lived near Sauria since she had close ties with the cloud runners

True, and not true. They don't talk about Krystal (cat) much and her background, but all we know is she was raised by a wizard named Randorm? who was also the father of Sabre (Aka: Fox McCloud in Adventures)

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Oh i'm sorry I misunderstood...Well Saying that the staff is saurian clearly makes sence(In the case of the game)

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm just saying (ignoring the fact of the need for basic game mechanics and the fact that SF: Adventures was transfered from Dinosaur Planet) that it would be too much of a coincidence that Cerinian and Saurian technologies/attributes are that similar.

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First of all who said the Cernian and Saurian technology is similar to Saurian tech? As far as I could see Sauria had no technology except for pulleys and cogs. (Note: Things like the Sharpclaw spaceship, and hover sleds were supplied by Andross and do not count.)

I hate to to bring these points out, but it looks like I'm going to have to point them out anyway.

That fact that Krystal says you can upgrade her staff is for the players benefit. When something is upgraded, that means that the upgraded portion would be used for the first time. However we know this not to be true, because Krystal uses the fire blast at the end of the game. If the staff was upgraded to the fire blaster for the first time with Fox, Krystal would not know how to do this move, thus you can assume that the staff moves are LEARNED.

In the story it is probably very likely that the staff does not need to recharge. This is just done to make it more challenging to the player. If the staff really had to recharge Fox could not shoot rapid shots of the fire blaster. (As he and Krystal are seen doing)

I don't care what people say. I want proof before I believe that it wasn't Andross that pushed her into the beam. We know that Andross needed her to channel the spirits, and we know he was seeing in yellowish green, as shown at the end of the game. Anyone else pushing her in, just doesn't make any sense.

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"Tech" as in Spirits Caves, architecture, keys, magic, stuff like that.

Aha! Like you said earlier, Krystal learned Dino language from using telepathy, what's stopping her from using telepathy on Fox to learn how her new staff upgrades work?

Sorry, but Andross isn't the only one to have that yellowish, green vision.

And why isn't Scales a worthy pusher?

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he's too busy dictating that's why I donno i personly think it was andross posssed Scales or something like that or Andross

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Krystal couldn't use her telepathy because she was unconscious in a blue crystal. What Fox saw was a recorded MESSAGE.

Scales didn't have a motive to capture Krystal. He tried to KILL her remember?!

And Kursed I agree with you. Andross could have been in control of Scales's body.

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Krystal couldn't use her telepathy because she was unconscious in a blue crystal. What Fox saw was a recorded MESSAGE.

Scales didn't have a motive to capture Krystal. He tried to KILL her remember?!

And Kursed I agree with you. Andross could have been in control of Scales's body.

yeah like the last Krazoa on adventures..
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1) Message she made after losing her staff on SAURIA!!!

2) Motive? How about trashing his ship? And how she escaped and mocked him? He seemed pretty pissed.

3) That thrid one does make sense. Andross could have sent Scales "subconscious" thoughts or something.

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1: She obviously made that recording in case she ever lost her staff.

2: If he was pissed he would have killed her.

3: That could be true too...

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1) Fine... Nothing in the recording specfically mentions Sauria, except the Spirit Caves.

2) But, but, but! Andross needs her alive, so he "told Scales" to just push her into the little light.

3) Fudge.

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So technically it wasn't Scales who pushed Krystal in.

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Well... Techincally... We have no BLOODY IDEA WHO DID IT! lol

well we can defintly nail it down to a set number of suspects.
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