Who created the Arwings?

[Falcory]

I'm going to ask a question I'm not sure anyone has bothered to ask.....

Who created the Arwings?

Now before I go deeper, lemme point out some things....

The Corneria Army did NOT make them.

Contrary to what some people say...they didn't. True the CA did make them in the SNES game, and the Itoh comic that follows the same storyline, but those two things are no longer canon to the mainstream series. Plus not to mention if the CA did make them, why don't we see the CDF (Cornerian Defense Force) flying them? They're top of the line ships and it seem someone in the army, (At least elites) would be flying them. But anyways just to get that point across...unless someone has proof that says otherwise.

Did James make the Arwing?

I was sort of always under the impression James made the Arwing. (Or at least modified a regular ship heavily) but a friend of mine made the following statement:

"James McCloud. Along with being the best pilot Cornerian has ever seen, also makes his own ships? Doubt it."

Btw can't tell you guys who this was. (*CoughZwolfcoughcough*) XD

But anyways it makes more sense to me than his idea of a "company" making them. Besides I thought of something....

Now Pigma betrayed the Starfox team. We know Andross made the Wolfens. So I thought maybe that's why the Wolfens have G-diffusers! But then I did a little research. Turns out Wolfens seemingly don't have G-diffusers, they have gravity- suppressing plates which apparently Arwings have too. Now I'm not sure if the G-diffuser and the gravity- suppressing plates are one and the same so I can't say for sure.

Anyways bottom line? I'm still confused. And still curious. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

[Asper Sarnoff]

As far as I know. They are created by a company called "Space Dynamics", which have changed name once during the series. Sorry, but there is little more than that I can tell you.

[Falcory]

As far as I know. They are created by a company called "Space Dynamics", which have changed name once during the series. Sorry, but there is little more than that I can tell you.

Really? Where is this info at?

[Vy'drach]

Forgive me for not being able to find the original poster of these scans from the guidebook, for it is 1:35 in the morning and I am tired, but according to the SF64 guidebook, the Arwing was designed/made by Arspace Dynamics Co. and the prototypes were given to the Star Fox team for flight and combat testing.

http://yfrog.com/dyarwingblueprintj

[Falcory]

Forgive me for not being able to find the original poster of these scans from the guidebook, for it is 1:35 in the morning and I am tired, but according to the SF64 guidebook, the Arwing was designed/made by Arspace Dynamics Co. and the prototypes were given to the Star Fox team for flight and combat testing.

http://yfrog.com/dyarwingblueprintj

Thanks man!

Lol, so Zwolf was right. They ARE made by a company. Good thing I didn't bet any money with him. XDDDD

But on one note the reason I never thought of it being a company is because it seems like the CA would order a stock of the same vehicle and have it in it's arsenal. Didn't think about private contract though. XD

[Asper Sarnoff]

You might want to have a look at this as well: http://forums.starfox-online.net/index.php?topic=5201.0

[Falcory]

You might want to have a look at this as well: http://forums.starfox-online.net/index.php?topic=5201.0

Hm so which trumps which? The 64 players guide, or the site?

Also I thought SLIPPY helped in building the Landmaster.

EDIT: Nevermind. It said it was a prototype of Space Dynamics and then the Starfox team (Slippy) added stronger battle armor and weapons systems.

Hm since eveything else is made by them, I wonder if R.O.B. is too....

[Star Fox Runner]

It seems to me that the SF64 Players Guide is basically the Star Fox fan's Bible. A lot of information that we have learned has come from that beautiful piece of literature.

[Kursed]

Thanks man!

Lol, so Zwolf was right. They ARE made by a company. Good thing I didn't bet any money with him. XDDDD

But on one note the reason I never thought of it being a company is because it seems like the CA would order a stock of the same vehicle and have it in it's arsenal. Didn't think about private contract though. XD

the UH-1 Iroquois. was made by a company almost all military ehicles are made by a company

[DZComposer]

Space Dynamics is the canon name of the company, as that is the only form that appeared in-game (it's logo is on the SFAs homing launcher). Pretty sure it is the largest defense contractor in Lylat.

I also remember reading somewhere that Beltino Toad was involved with the Arwing. But, I am having trouble tracking down where I read that.

[Kursed]

Space Dynamics is the canon name of the company, as that is the only form that appeared in-game (it's logo is on the SFAs homing launcher). Pretty sure it is the largest defense contractor in Lylat.

I also remember reading somewhere that Beltino Toad was involved with the Arwing. But, I am having trouble tracking down where I read that.

http://www.marvineng.com/adi/index.htm aerospace dynamics is the  real Space dynamics.

[DZComposer]

http://gallery.starfox-online.net/index.php?album=assault%2Fofficialrenders&image=1600Falco.jpg&z&p=full-image (logo is behind Falco's head)

Probably a combination between that and Boeing. The emblem between the words resembles Boeing's emblem:

http://www.listphile.com/Fortune_500_Logos/Boeing/image/028_boeing.png

[Kursed]

http://gallery.starfox-online.net/index.php?album=assault%2Fofficialrenders&image=1600Falco.jpg&z&p=full-image (logo is behind Falco's head)

Probably a combination between that and Boeing. The emblem between the words resembles Boeing's emblem:

http://www.listphile.com/Fortune_500_Logos/Boeing/image/028_boeing.png

yeah defiantly  a combination.

[Guest Julius Quasar]

Damn, that's a good question...

I dunno...

We know Beltino created the Blue Marine with Slippy, and the Great Fox had a huge ass 80 year mortgage to pay for...heck, who created the Landmaster, for that matter?

I think James McCloud had those vessels commissioned, but as for the building of them, I'll bet they came from the Aerospace architects and engineers on Planet Macbeth, and by "engineers on Planet Macbeth", I sure as hell don't mean this stupid jerk:

"I CAN'T STOP IIIT!"

The Great Fox, Landmaster, and Arwings were probably designed and built on Macbeth, pre Andross Invasion, and paid for by a Cornerian Bank Loan.

[Guest FoXXX]

Damn, that's a good question...

I dunno...

We know Beltino created the Blue Marine with Slippy, and the Great Fox had a huge ass 80 year mortgage to pay for...heck, who created the Landmaster, for that matter?

I think James McCloud had those vessels commissioned, but as for the building of them, I'll bet they came from the Aerospace architects and engineers on Planet Macbeth, and by "engineers on Planet Macbeth", I sure as hell don't mean this stupid jerk:

"I CAN'T STOP IIIT!"

heheheheh, what's wrong?

[Star Fox Runner]

Damn, that's a good question...

I dunno...

We know Beltino created the Blue Marine with Slippy, and the Great Fox had a huge ass 80 year mortgage to pay for...heck, who created the Landmaster, for that matter?

I think James McCloud had those vessels commissioned, but as for the building of them, I'll bet they came from the Aerospace architects and engineers on Planet Macbeth, and by "engineers on Planet Macbeth", I sure as hell don't mean this stupid jerk:

"I CAN'T STOP IIIT!"

The Great Fox, Landmaster, and Arwings were probably designed and built on Macbeth, pre Andross Invasion, and paid for by a Cornerian Bank Loan.

It would make sense for Macbeth to be the industrial center for the Lylat System, seeing how the Venomian supply base was there. And Macbeth just had the overall feel of an industrial center. (Railroads, supply facilities, mining storage.)

I would assume that Space Dynamics main business headquarters would be on Corneria, and the smelting and assembly facilities would be on Macbeth.

[Fox-Shot]

http://yfrog.com/dyarwingblueprintj

Note it says "Ltd.", so they may be the same company under a different name and it would still make sense.

[Mr. Foxer]

Note it says "Ltd.", so they may be the same company under a different name and it would still make sense.

Ltd. means limited

[Fox-Shot]

Ltd. means limited

Exactly, meaning that the name could change much easier....

[DZComposer]

No... Co. Ltd. means "Limited Company." The term comes from British Common Law, and means that liability is limited by shares of stock.

Nintendo is called Nintendo Co. Ltd. because of translation. ??????? is the full name in Japanese. It reads Nintendo Kabushiki Gaisha. Kabushiki Gaisha basically means a corporation that issues stock.

Given the context of the story coming from Japan, this is more likely what Co. Ltd. means in this case, rather than the UK Common law meaning.

Basically, it just means that Space Dynamics Co. Ltd. is a corporation that issues stock. Ease of name change would depend on Cornerian Corproate Law, which there is absolutely zero canon info about.

[Mr. Foxer]

No... Co. Ltd. means "Limited Company." The term comes from British Common Law, and means that liability is limited by shares of stock.

Nintendo is called Nintendo Co. Ltd. because of translation. ??????? is the full name in Japanese. It reads Nintendo Kabushiki Gaisha. Kabushiki Gaisha basically means a corporation that issues stock.

Given the context of the story coming from Japan, this is more likely what Co. Ltd. means in this case, rather than the UK Common law meaning.

Basically, it just means that Space Dynamics Co. Ltd. is a corporation that issues stock. Ease of name change would depend on Cornerian Corproate Law, which there is absolutely zero canon info about.

Nice copy-paste.

[DZComposer]

Yes. Redundancy is redundant. :mrgreen:

[Kursed]

Yes. Redundancy is redundant.

so Space dynamics made the Arwings so who made the other craft we see in command also a  interesting fact is that Space dynamics is the lylat version  of  Earths  aerospace dynamics and Boeing.