Okay guys, what's up with the degradtion of video games?

[Sableye]

It's odd to me that as time progresses, that games tend to be more sucky than the last generation.

For Example, compare the SF64 to SFC.

See the differences?

That's why I am asking you.

[Sabre]

It's odd to me that as time progresses, that games tend to be more sucky than the last generation.

For Example, compare the SF64 to SFC.

See the differences?

That's why I am asking you.

There isn't. Some games get worse, but most get better, and the minimum standard has risen. Personally, I liked assault alot.

Designs change, and starfox would be considered a mini game by todays standards, hence all the on foot and objective stuff.

EDIT: To clarify, by minimum standard, I mean the typical quality of most games. A good example of what I mean is movie licence games. Back in the day they were unplayable abominations, today they are average game, certainly playable and fun compaired to games of old, but still seen as bad in todays eyes.

Even 'popular crap' like Modern Warfare and Halo have themes and mechanics much more balenced and complex then they typical "Jump around and grab coins" of the 2D era. The emotonal impact is greater, with games like MW2 and Mass Effect that have you think about the issues in the game during and after the fact.

[Sableye]

There isn't. Some games get worse, but most get better, and the minimum standard has risen. Personally, I liked assault alot.

Designs change, and starfox would be considered a mini game by todays standards, hence all the on foot and objective stuff.

EDIT: To clarify, by minimum standard, I mean the typical quality of most games. A good example of what I mean is movie licence games. Back in the day they were unplayable abominations, today they are average game, certainly playable and fun compaired to games of old, but still seen as bad in todays eyes.

Even 'popular crap' like Modern Warfare and Halo have themes and mechanics much more balenced and complex then they typical "Jump around and grab coins" of the 2D era. The emotonal impact is greater, with games like MW2 and Mass Effect that have you think about the issues in the game during and after the fact.

Im just saying from what I feel.

The true quality of an game is in a gamer's eyes.

(Ex. Us vs. SFC)

[Sabre]

But you're asking why games are getting worse, and they are not.

Why do YOU think games are getting worse? Well, either notalgia in which case it's a bias based on your 'better' time of innocents before you hit puberty and found out you cant get a date, or it's personal taste for retro, in which case there's nothing to discuss, and your statment that games have declined is irrelivent.

[Asper Sarnoff]

Well, I'd say that as a general, games are getting better. There are many old games I like better than the equivelant new ones, but that's solely nostaliga factor. Super Mario 64 vs Super Mario Galaxy being an excellent example.

It's the new, innovative thinking that's getting rarer. More games means more will share similarities to each other.

The good thing about this however, it that it spawns competition between game developers to put out the best product in their segment, which ultimately benefit us, the players.

[Scott7]

There isn't. Some games get worse, but most get better, and the minimum standard has risen. Personally, I liked assault alot.

Designs change, and starfox would be considered a mini game by todays standards, hence all the on foot and objective stuff.

EDIT: To clarify, by minimum standard, I mean the typical quality of most games. A good example of what I mean is movie licence games. Back in the day they were unplayable abominations, today they are average game, certainly playable and fun compaired to games of old, but still seen as bad in todays eyes.

Even 'popular crap' like Modern Warfare and Halo have themes and mechanics much more balenced and complex then they typical "Jump around and grab coins" of the 2D era. The emotonal impact is greater, with games like MW2 and Mass Effect that have you think about the issues in the game during and after the fact.

Makes you wish there was a Fps starfox game with online multi-player and customizable ships for online dog fights -_-'

But they're not getting worse, its just newer games are getting better. its the amount of content that comes with a game that makes it seem better then the rest.

[Sableye]

Nice one, guys.

Sabre... ?_?

[Guest Julius Quasar]

There isn't. Some games get worse, but most get better, and the minimum standard has risen. Personally, I liked assault alot.

Designs change, and starfox would be considered a mini game by todays standards, hence all the on foot and objective stuff.

EDIT: To clarify, by minimum standard, I mean the typical quality of most games. A good example of what I mean is movie licence games. Back in the day they were unplayable abominations, today they are average game, certainly playable and fun compaired to games of old, but still seen as bad in todays eyes.

Even 'popular crap' like Modern Warfare and Halo have themes and mechanics much more balenced and complex then they typical "Jump around and grab coins" of the 2D era. The emotonal impact is greater, with games like MW2 and Mass Effect that have you think about the issues in the game during and after the fact.

^ This

Well, I'd say that as a general, games are getting better. There are many old games I like better than the equivelant new ones, but that's solely nostaliga factor. Super Mario 64 vs Super Mario Galaxy being an excellent example.

It's the new, innovative thinking that's getting rarer. More games means more will share similarities to each other.

The good thing about this however, it that it spawns competition between game developers to put out the best product in their segment, which ultimately benefit us, the players.

^ ...and this.

[Matt Macdowel]

It's odd to me that as time progresses, that games tend to be more sucky than the last generation.

For Example, compare the SF64 to SFC.

See the differences?

That's why I am asking you.

wow and i thought i was the one show only saw that yeah new games today are kinda lame! there not like as fun anymore

no local play (co-op/spilt screen)

its just aobut online now!

[Sabre]

wow and i thought i was the one show only saw that yeah new games today are kinda lame! there not like as fun anymore

no local play (co-op/spilt screen)

its just aobut online now!

Correct, because that's what people want. Big team games, finley balenced, no screen watching, big team based objective game modes, no playing on a screen the size of a postage stamp. It's like saying when we have VR "Games were better when you had to use a controler."

[Matt Macdowel]

Correct, because that's what people want. Big team games, finley balenced, no screen watching, big team based objective game modes, no playing on a screen the size of a postage stamp. It's like saying when we have VR "Games were better when you had to use a controler."

yeah but its 10x funnier when u have some friends over you know i mean at least add it and not everyone has online for there consoles.

online you gain lag

you get flammed

hackers

and obey rules

[Mr. Foxer]

There wouldn't be bad games without bad console eh? Take for example, the Wii, the DS, oh the DS Lite, the DSi yeah?

What's this? Gamers don't like the idea of 3D games? hurr let's make the 3DS

[Matt Macdowel]

There wouldn't be bad games without bad console eh? Take for example, the Wii, the DS, oh the DS Lite, the DSi yeah?

What's this? Gamers don't like the idea of 3D games? hurr let's make the 3DS

LIES!  wii good console!

and i don't think it matters witch console its on!

[Scott7]

yeah but its 10x funnier when u have some friends over you know i mean at least add it and not everyone has online for there consoles.

online you gain lag

you get flammed

hackers

and obey rules

I'm glad online is around, my family always trys to live in a place that's away from civilization, the first was in the middle of a forest as thick as a concrete wall. so there never really was anyone to hang out with.

At least I'm in a place now that ISN'T filled bugs and pollen, i live in a decent neighborhood now. (for once)

[Guest FoXXX]

It's odd to me that as time progresses, that games tend to be more sucky than the last generation.

For Example, compare the SF64 to SFC.

See the differences?

That's why I am asking you.

Well SF64&SFC = Developers :(

[Guest DRL]

Well, to me games are improving.

Yes, I do like many old games,

but that does not means later ones

are bad or werse.

For a modern example:

Lord of The Rings: Battle for Middle Earth

and take their I & II versions respectively.

Yeah, in the I, you choosed the missions

in-campaing, but in the II, you can make

a strategical campaing ("War of the Ring"),

and customize it to your liking, choose any

special place as your base (I love doing that)...

It's like saying when we have VR "Games were better when you had to use a controler."

Yeah... I what I mean is that I enjoy both,

but I am leaning towards the VR anytime  .