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Whats better? The Old or the New Star Wolf Team


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In the Star Fox 64 Game the Star Wolf Members were: Wolf,Leon,Pigma and Andrew.

In The Star Fox Assault game they removed two members,Pigma and Andrew and got Panther.

What do you guys prefer? The Old Star Wolf Team or The New Star Wolf Team. And why?

I Prefer the Old Star Wolf Team.

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New. Andrew (at least) made SW look idiotic. He was better off solo. Pigma, was just meh...in my opinion...

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I'm probably one of the few, but I tend to prefer the newer StarWolf team. They seem to mesh better together than the old one did. Andrew was an anchor to them, and Pigma didn't have the scruples Wolf seemed to have. Panther, on the other hand, can hold his own (according to description, anyway, not practice, but Falco isn't a good pilot in practice despite description anyway, so nyeh). I do wish they'd put someone else with ambiguous morals and some amount of competence on their team to balance it out to four again, though.

EDIT: Not as alone as I thought. :P

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The new Star Wolf, all they need is a fourth member that fits in with the crowd to balance the dogfights.

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The new Star Wolf, all they need is a fourth member that fits in with the crowd to balance the dogfights.

I agree. I don't know what they would add to help balance it, but an equal 4-on-4 would be nice for once.

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The new Star Wolf, all they need is a fourth member that fits in with the crowd to balance the dogfights.

I agree. I don't know what they would add to help balance it, but an equal 4-on-4 would be nice for once.

I agree wholeheartedly. I prefer the new StarWolf too. Wolf and Leon are older and more experienced. And I am glad that Andrew and Pigma are gone. Andrew was pathetic and Pigma was a stinking piece of filth. :x Panther, though he has his annoying moments sometimes, is better than both of those two punks. :)

They do need a fourth member now. If Miyu and Fay were brought back to the StarFox series, this could be achieved. While Fay would join the Cornerian air force and be Bill Grey's wingmate and girlfriend :wink:, Miyu could join StarWolf and they would have pilots to balance them with StarFox, and I believe it could bring about some good character development, primarily with Panther whom Miyu could form a relationship with (I would love to see Panther X Miyu :wink:). :D

That's my take on this...

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I think the new Starwolf team. Panther is HOT and Pigma and Andrew are NOT xD

Just joking.

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Guest Trace

Well I prefer the Old Star Wolf Team,despite the fact that Pigma and Andrew were annoying.

In the star fox 64 game the old star wolf team  were  challenging and tough to kill.

In star Fox Assault and Star Command  The New Star wolf team was so freaking easy to kill like they weren't  a challenge to me..

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Storywise I prefer the current one but trace is right about one thing, they were way to easy to take out...

No, Pigma is a sexy beast.

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Well I prefer the Old Star Wolf Team,despite the fact that Pigma and Andrew were annoying.

In the star fox 64 game the old star wolf team  were  challenging and tough to kill.

In star Fox Assault and Star Command  The New Star wolf team was so freaking easy to kill like they weren't  a challenge to me..

I hate to admit it, but...yeah.  Pigma is especially the enemy you love to hate.

If the new Star Wolf Team had a 4th pilot who was awesome, I'd be more in favor of it...they need a female, for that matter (Fara?  :P )

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Prefer the new one. With Andrew out and Panther in, a lot of their comical relief factor went down the drain, which I think is a good thing. And while Pigma's an enemy both the players and Fox should love to hate, I do think it allows for more rival-like interaction between the two teams if Pigma's not with Starwolf, and not just make Starwolf a group of blank, enemy faces which we never got to know much about, as we had to shoot them down on sight.

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Good god you guys must really hate Pigma... Don't forget he was a decent pilot.

Wolf kicked him off the team not because he sucked at piloting,because he was incredibly greedy.

But I honestly think Andrew and Pigma are better pilots then  Panther. Panther may look cool,but being cool isn't what it takes to be

a  good pilot... And I'm pretty sure that flirting with Krystal  isn't what it takes to be a pilot either...

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Actually, the only game where we get to see a representation of how good a pilot any of the StarWolf members are besides Wolf is Command, since -everyone- is pathetic in SF64 and Assault, and Panther is amazingly good. I would go so far as to say he's the best pilot in the game with that enormous laser of his.

...And don't anyone go pulling this "Command isn't canon" junk in this topic. Command exists, and it shows off characters' abilities, so it is entirely legitimate to use it as a reference for how good people are.

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Not everyone in Star Fox 64 is pathetic.. Sure Your Teammates in Star Fox 64 kinda sucked but the Star Wolf team you encounter twice are not pathetic..

The Old Star Wolf team in N64 Actually did SomerSaults, U-Turns and they chased you  and shot a crap load of lasers at you..And you actually had to gun them down...

In Star Fox Assault the whole star wolf team was pathetic,they die from freaking 2-3 Charged Shots that you can avoid from a simple somersault..

Also don't forget that in Star Fox Assault when you fought starwolf your teammates shields didn't drop down from the Star Wolf Team..

They dropped down from Enemy Fighters.. Which shows that the Star Wolf Team in Assault suck.. Honestly what do they do when they are flying with your teammates?

In Star Fox Command Sure Panther may have had Huge Lasers and S***  but huge lasers aren't what make a pilot "A good Pilot"

In Command its like Panther Gave his Wolfen's Lasers, Steroids...

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In SF64, as in Assault, the teams suffer from awful AI. You can keep pulling the same tricks over and over on them, and they keep falling for it. This is why I don't think they're an accurate representation of the characters' actual skills. See, -everything- in Assault was toned down in difficulty compared to SF64, so it wasn't a matter of the team sucking so much as it was the fact that the game was simply easier. Just as StarWolf could not harm your teammates in Assault, neither could you playing as Fox, but that doesn't mean he had a decrease in skill. It's just the way the game was programmed: Less difficulty.

As for Command: No, the equipment on the ship doesn't determine the pilot, but in that game the equipment mirrored the pilot's style. Falco could attack multiple targets at once, indicating his speed; and you could just hold down Leon's laser button, firing off small shots and indicating his tenacity. Panther is a power player, as indicated by the giant laser. The equipment, speed, and power of the ships match the pilots' styles, and from what I found, Panther had the most effective style in that game.

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I hate to admit it, but...yeah.  Pigma is especially the enemy you love to hate.

If the new Star Wolf Team had a 4th pilot who was awesome, I'd be more in favor of it...they need a female, for that matter (Fara?  :P )

My friend always asks me if i want to play StarFox 64 (for me Lylat Wars :lol:) In the final Stawolf Battle on Venom she always roars: stop talking that REAL GOOD xD

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I always liked the newer team, they have better personalities, and being that there is only three of them, it's easier to keep track of them :D

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Defiantly the newer Star Wolf. They're more like heroes now.

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Guest Trace

Defiantly the newer Star Wolf. They're more like heroes now.

Ya they are heros,which isn't a bad thing...

But I always look at Star Wolf to be  an evil team not a good team that helps innocent people..

I mean Star Wolf in the begining served Andross and their goal was to kill the Star Fox Team.

If Star Wolf are now allies with The Star Fox Team and with Corneria.

Then who will be the enemy of the Star Fox Team?

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