Hatsworth III Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 lonliness makes pepole crazy, surely. and if krystal died panther would only care until he finds another girl, so he easily start/end "relationships", without caring about the involved. even a retard knows that was stupid about krystal's decision abot leaving star fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 lonliness makes pepole crazy, surely. and if krystal died panther would only care until he finds another girl, so he easily start/end "relationships", without caring about the involved. even a retard knows that was stupid about krystal's decision abot leaving star fox.Again, that is your speculation. And the second point isn't even relevant to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (Was totally gonna respond to AJC, but other people already said what I was going to say, so...moving on!)I think the thing here is that we just don't know enough about these characters to tell what they would do in any given situation. Honestly, to get back to Kursed, we just don't know enough about her to hate her or love her. This whole topic is a bit silly in that regard, which is why I've never directly answered the question. Kursed is a hypothetical evolution of a character that provides little insight into what exactly happened.Star Wolf rises! Across Lylat, people talk of Wolf O'Donnell and his courageous crew. But they are less kind to Krystal, feeling that she was wrong to abandon Star Fox. But she ignores the talk and proceeds with her new life as a member of Star Wolf.Eventually, the slings and arrows of the populace are too much to bear. They begin to hiss as she walks by, and name her traitor to her face. She is alone... and hated. She pulls away from Star Wolf and tries to find meaning in this new, cruel world.Haunted by her past, Krystal abandons her life and flees to a distant galaxy. Changing her name to Kursed, she survives by collecting bounties on the worst scum in the galaxy. Years later, she runs into Fox during a job on planet Kew... He does not recognize her.That is literally all we know about her. She's a vigilante who was hurt and is searching for meaning by bounty hunting in a distant galaxy. Everything else that's been said about her beyond that is nothing but speculation. She is not cruel, according to this, but the world is. She isn't cold-hearted; we didn't see her reaction to Fox when he didn't recognize her, so we don't even know what she thought of that encounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCL00 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 *People calling Kursed "emo version of Krystal"*Excuse me for any mistakes I might make but wouldn't it be more fitting to call Kursed an angsty version of Krystal? But then again, that's just good ol' mecha animu-watchin' me :v. For me, I can't share any opinions about whether I hate Kursed. I mean...she hasn't really done anything except run away and become some bounty hunter. This is due to the fact that she was only introduced at the end of Command via epilogue. Usually for a person to have feelings for a character, it's usually involved throughout a story.EDIT: Samantha Weltzin pretty much said what I wanted to but didn't want to explain in full detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thu'um Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Thirdly: Fox has the MOST inconsistant personality out of an entire CAST of inconsitant personalities. so don't EVEN go there. I -HAVE- played the goddamn games, I have played ALL the goddamn games, and I wasted entirely too much of my youth doing so. Fox. Has. No. Personality. He is a typical hero, and nothing more.Mabye but to have an incosistant personalty is required to have one at all!I think the thing here is that we just don't know enough about these characters to tell what they would do in any given situation. Honestly, to get back to Kursed, we just don't know enough about her to hate her or love her. This whole topic is a bit silly in that regard, which is why I've never directly answered the question. Kursed is a hypothetical evolution of a character that provides little insight into what exactly happened.That is literally all we know about her. She's a vigilante who was hurt and is searching for meaning by bounty hunting in a distant galaxy. Everything else that's been said about her beyond that is nothing but speculation. She is not cruel, according to this, but the world is. She isn't cold-hearted; we didn't see her reaction to Fox when he didn't recognize her, so we don't even know what she thought of that encounter.i Agree but i don't like the way things seem to be heading for her.Was this actually an attempt at a point? Here, let me play by your rules and try back, just from foggy memory:"Mess with me and your life is as good as gone" Panther shows annoyance, depth!"*hitting on Krystal*" Romantic interest, depth! (I'd also like to remind those who dislike Panther's womanizing ways that Fox did the same thing more or less over Krystal's unconscious body. At least Panther TALKS to his women before wanting to bed them.)"I believe the com record will point you toward Fichina" Being helpful to the heros, depth!"Oh no, my favorite cafe got totalled." Regret, depth!See? Cheesy one liners with the intent of showing a weak feeling means nothing. Fox is very much cardboard and so is the rest of the cast. Panther has no depth, as opposed to... who? Krystal? Ha.your saying panther has little charactert yes? well I agree so thank you. but nows we off the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Mabye but to have an incosistant personalty is required to have one at all!Really? Your position has weakened that much? Why haven't you given up yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thu'um Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Really? Your position has weakened that much? Why haven't you given up yet?FREEEDOM!! But, i think the same off the other side of the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 FREEEDOM!! But, i think the same off the other side of the argument.Let me spell it out for you: You just admitted that Fox's personality is inconsistent. You are now literally unable to defend Fox in any way, as you just threw away any worth the character might have had in your argument.Get rid of the shovel or you'll be tempted to keep digging that hole you're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 your saying panther has little charactert yes? well I agree so thank you. but nows we off the topic.Actually he was saying Panther has as much character as Fox. Actually, he has more character than Fox.Mabye but to have an incosistant personalty is required to have one at all!That... doesn't.... even.... make.... sense. An inconsistant personality isn't required for anything! To have "one at all", the only requirement is in fact the opposite: to be CONSISTANTLY written! In which case, Panther has something Fox -DOESN'T-.FREEEDOM!! But, i think the same off the other side of the argument. Because my side of the debate isn't fvcking stupid and rooted in blind dedication to contradictory statements that MAKE NO SENSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Really dislking a Charter who has almost No screen time is really confuzing you don't know anything about her other than her profession. It's like saying a black person smokes weed just because he is black...wow you guys are mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatsworth III Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 Really dislking a Charter who has almost No screen time is really confuzing you don't know anything about her other than her profession. It's like saying a black person smokes weed just because he is black...wow you guys are mean.@kursed well as i saw and understood about kursed (not you, the character) i disliked, or even hated, because it ruins the good 'ol krystal, the cheerful personality just turned into ashes, and continued by a cliche storyline. simply ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Yoshi Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I don't like Kursed because she brings out what I don't want Krystal to be. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublinthefox Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I don't like Kursed because she brings out what I don't want Krystal to be. My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkyway64 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Really dislking a Charter who has almost No screen time is really confuzing you don't know anything about her other than her profession. It's like saying a black person smokes weed just because he is black...wow you guys are mean.News flash: Krystal or Kursed are not real people. They are bland, stock characters in a franchise full of them. It's not hate, it's the truth. It's the fanboys who pretend otherwise/defend her to the death because she's hot that are annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCL00 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Really dislking a Charter who has almost No screen time is really confuzing you don't know anything about her other than her profession. It's like saying a black person smokes weed just because he is black...wow you guys are mean.I wouldn't say it's "mean" but more like...prejudging(?). And like I said before:For me, I can't share any opinions about whether I hate Kursed. I mean...she hasn't really done anything except run away and become some bounty hunter. This is due to the fact that she was only introduced at the end of Command via epilogue. Usually for a person to have feelings for a character, it's usually involved throughout a story.In other words, I wouldn't really hate a character if I only seen a picture of them or gained some basic info about them.Milkyway64: They are bland, stock characters in a franchise full of them.QUICK PEOPLE, RAISE YOUR SHIELDS BEFORE THE FANBOYS ATTACK! D:[img height=335 width=448]http://www.figures.com/forums/attachments/news/10180d1282347621-square-enix-play-arts-kai-metal-gear-solid-peace-walker-1snake11.jpgI actually feel the same way. That's why I'm hoping that in some future Star Fox game, the characters/story will be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkyway64 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I actually feel the same way. That's why I'm hopping that in some future Star Fox game, the characters/story will be improved.As would anyone. It'd be nice to see the likes of Falco, Krystal, and Wolf to be expanded on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zorro de la Estrella Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I don't like Kursed because she brings out what I don't want Krystal to be. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I don't like Kursed because she brings out what I don't want Krystal to be. There we go. Although I disagree with it personally, this is probably the first legitimate answer I've heard to this topic. It's honest and to the point. Thank you, Fire Yoshi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I don't understand why this version of Krystal is popular.Kursed is Krystal, but super-emo and stripped of what little character depth she had to begin with. The original design behind Krystal's character was generally likable, but this 'cold and emo' version is not so likable.I know some of you dispute the "emo" label, but if you re-read the ending:"Eventually, the slings and arrows of the populace are too much to bear. They begin to hiss as she walks by, and name her traitor to her face. She is alone... and hated. She pulls away from Star Wolf and tries to find meaning in this new, cruel world. Haunted by her past, Krystal abandons her life and flees to a distant galaxy. Changing her name to Kursed, she survives by collecting bounties on the worst scum in the galaxy."I think "Emo" is the best way to describe that passage in one word.The only guess I have is that some may perceive that she turns into a badass, despite the fact that there is little evidence to support that claim (the passage quote above is the entirety of what we know about Kursed). And she got into the position she is in by her own doing.This ending is in my top-three least favorite endings in SFC, along with the one you get on first run-through (unnecessarily cruel plot twist), and the one where Fox and Falco become racing pilots (Fox becomes the super-emo one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCL00 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I know some of you dispute the "emo" label, but if you re-read the ending:"Eventually, the slings and arrows of the populace are too much to bear. They begin to hiss as she walks by, and name her traitor to her face. She is alone... and hated. She pulls away from Star Wolf and tries to find meaning in this new, cruel world. Haunted by her past, Krystal abandons her life and flees to a distant galaxy. Changing her name to Kursed, she survives by collecting bounties on the worst scum in the galaxy."I think "Emo" is the best way to describe that passage in one word.I have a feeling you were refereeing to me somehow. If so, I wasn't that serious about the term "emo" being used (Guess I'll just have to add a troll emoticon everytime I'm not srs :u). Example:Excuse me for any mistakes I might make but wouldn't it be more fitting to call Kursed an angsty version of Krystal? But then again, that's just good ol' mecha animu-watchin' me :v.If Nintendo does continue the series with the Kursed ending, they'll proabibly pull a Mobile Suit Gundam or Neon Genesis Evangelion and have Kursed/Krystal return to the team because she has nowhere else to go or something and it'll be like she never abandoned the team (that way, they can avoid actually having to work on character/plot development). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Actually, "emo" is not accurate for the way Krystal is described there. Emos are named such because they are bursting with emotion and every little thing makes them cry or lament or whatever. The description in the ending is actually closer to someone who has killed her own emotions.As for how people label her a "badass," the line about taking out "the worst scum in the galaxy" is likely what people base it on. You have to be tough to collect bounties on wanted criminals.That said, again, we just don't have much information about her.Here is an example of emo. I don't think this fits Kursed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 *Sing to the tune of "I've got a feeling" by Black Eyed Peas"I have a feeling...That this thread is going to get locked.That this thread is going to get locked.That this thread is going to get get locked.I've got a feeling...This is a thread!That's gonna get locked!By a mod!Probably "User"!Go ahead and argue!Like some sort of dog! (?)Now go on and argue!And I'll GTFO!I know that you'll have a ball.Arguing pointlesly about krystal.And I know that you won't let it go,Instead just lose it all.Thank you! I'll be here all week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublinthefox Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 *Sing to the tune of "I've got a feeling" by Black Eyed Peas"I have a feeling...That this thread is going to get locked.That this thread is going to get locked.That this thread is going to get get locked.I've got a feeling...This is a thread!That's gonna get locked!By a mod!Probably "User"!Go ahead and argue!Like some sort of dog! (?)Now go on and argue!And I'll GTFO!I know that you'll have a ball.Arguing pointlesly about krystal.And I know that you won't let it go,Instead just lose it all.Thank you! I'll be here all week!Nice! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Nice! Thanks! They're off the top of my head.The "Why do you hate Krystal" thread got locked, I honestly don't see any difference here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 *Sing to the tune of "I've got a feeling" by Black Eyed Peas"I have a feeling...That this thread is going to get locked.That this thread is going to get locked.That this thread is going to get get locked.I've got a feeling...This is a thread!That's gonna get locked!By a mod!Probably "User"!Go ahead and argue!Like some sort of dog! (?)Now go on and argue!And I'll GTFO!I know that you'll have a ball.Arguing pointlesly about krystal.And I know that you won't let it go,Instead just lose it all.Thank you! I'll be here all week!This isn't even near where other topics had been before getting locked.I mean, clever song and all, but it's way premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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