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Anyone else been hearing about this in the news these past few weeks? There are protests going on in other cities as well.

Thoughts?

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Yes! I heard a lot about it. So many stuff happening there. I think there are still protesters going on. Take a look here:

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Yeah. Mainstream media is trying to co-operate it into a liberal movement while in reality majority of them are against the Federal Reserve System. So exciting to see more people wake up and take peaceful action. While Wall St. and the Big Bankers continue to enjoy their share of the ponzi scheme.

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Police beat vampire who was counting the people they arrested #OccupySesameStreet

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Watch these guys become the Tea Party of the left in the not so distance future.

"These guys" are generally peaceful people that aren't calling themselves anything but protestors who're part of the American public. They're not attempting to be a political party, they aren't butthurt over a black man being the ammurrican prezidunt, they're kids who want jobs and healthcare and education and jobs who are doing their best to be heard amidst the small-but-powerful bracket who clearly would rather sip champagne and laugh in their faces than pay taxes.

Read this (watch out, a lot of the rest of the blog is NSFW)

This too

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"These guys" are generally peaceful people that aren't calling themselves anything but protestors who're part of the American public. They're not attempting to be a political party, they aren't butthurt over a black man being the ammurrican prezidunt, they're kids who want jobs and healthcare and education and jobs who are doing their best to be heard amidst the small-but-powerful bracket who clearly would rather sip champagne and laugh in their faces than pay taxes.

Read this (watch out, a lot of the rest of the blog is NSFW)

This too

Maybe not at first but you never know with these types of individuals and the political power that associates itself or otherwise are supportive of movements like this (like Congressmen, Nancy Pelosi, some celebrities already have) . Like the Tea Party they want massive changes (in this case about how the financial system works) among other things. Admirable objectives and I hope they succeed as long as they don't do anything illegal like block a major bridge and all get arrested.

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Someone was trying to take wedding pictures on the bridge they're protesting on. Needless to say, they took the pictures anyways, and made for some funny pictures.

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Watch these guys become the Tea Party of the left in the not so distance future.

An organization is already trying to do this.

http://rebuildthedream.com/about.php

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I'm seing this kind of activity here where I am. These potesters are getting their message through alright.

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I think this grass movement is going to get bigger and bigger. A possible second American Revolution?

I doubt it. These are protests against corporations and not the government.

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I think you would get a good kick out of this video from an interesting user on Youtube that did a remix on Alec Baldwin's Credit Card Commercial. Enjoy ;)

http://youtu.be/hDmUm5qBxKg

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As long as they're not blocking roads or making traffic in Manhattan a logistical nightmare I can certainly respect them and their cause. :P

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This is very interesting :3 Mark Dice hijacks Occupy North County Encinitas protest!!! Gotta love it! ;)

http://www.youtube.c...d&v=-ed7wGctA1A

As soon as he mentioned the Bilderburg Group, the NWO, and Ron Paul, he lost me.

Libertarianism goes against what OWS is fighting for, even though many of them are more libertarian leaning. Libertarianism has no real checks on the Wall St. greed he claims to protest.

Is Obama too close to Wall St? Yes. Would Ron Paul's ideology be better? No.

Anyway, people have trouble pinning a cause on OWS because they don't understand its cause. The Tea Party was largely formed around deregulation and tax cuts. OWS just wants a fair deal, and a chance to live the American Dream. They see Wall St. as hording all of the money while foreclosures are happening in record numbers, wages are a record lows, college tuition is a record highs, essential commodity prices are high (mainly due to Wall St. speculation), and an environmental disaster in the making that will eventually lead to water shortages and famine.

The Reagan Generation decided to take a shit on their children, who are now old enough to understand how the world works and how badly they have been screwed. This is why OWS is happening.

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The OWS was an interesting start and mainstream media is most likely painting it into the left wing movement. Remember the tea party rally a few years ago and they also labeled it into a right wing movement? And good ol' Glenn Beck and others most likely took the movement over into a right wing movement. So we pretty much have division. The left and right movements.

As soon as he mentioned the Bilderburg Group, the NWO, and Ron Paul, he lost me.

Libertarianism goes against what OWS is fighting for, even though many of them are more libertarian leaning. Libertarianism has no real checks on the Wall St. greed he claims to protest.

Is Obama too close to Wall St? Yes. Would Ron Paul's ideology be better? No.

Interesting to get lost what Mark Dice mentioned. So, do you think it's crazy to think that Bilderbergs to NWO and stuff like that are considered conspiracy theories? Or they are non existence? Or that it's too radical to become a conspiracy theorist when mentioning those things. I'm just wondering what you are coming from DZ.

So, if these are real that Bilderberg members and global policies (United Nations) and stuff like that are true. Do they want to get rid of us all and hoard all the wealth to themselves? Would that be the reason why we are experiencing these protests both the left and right movements from boom and bust cycles from the Federal Reserve and other Central banks around the world? Also what is the main objective of these so called high powerful men? I'll just leave some of those statements to ponder on or think about. That might lead to a different subject as well.

I would like to see real change happening here in America. I personally believe that libertarianism and a little bit of conservatism would be the key for a better America. But looking at American historical documents like the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution is the way to have a new better government. Would people actually come together to actually change America back to the founding fathers' way? It could. Make it a Republic not total anarchy. Ron Paul I personally believe hes the real guy left for America. RP's ideology seems good and fair. If he doesn't make it in. Game Over for America.

I'm debating myself if I want to start a different topic on libertarianism or other hot conspiracy issues. Good points DZ and other people's thoughts on OWS.

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This is a little old as far as current news goes about OWS but I thought Chris Hedges(sp?) had some pretty interesting and insightful comments on what's been going on per last week in this video.

As an outside observer on the decline of the American economic system and how the gap between rich and poor has been exponentially worsened over the past decade, while getting little to no serious mention by the traditionally right-leaning media, it's kind of neat to get the opinions of the 'guy on the street' as it were. Hedges seems to be pretty knowledgeable about ongoing events and while throwing around some traditionally 'conspiracy theorist' buzzwords (neofeudalism, haven't heard that in a while) he doesn't seem too far out of left field to be taken seriously.

I'd recommend caution when watching stuff from Russia Today news though - they've had a pretty crummy track record themselves when it comes to covering stuff like this. They've gotten some flak on their pretty pro-Russia coverage of the invasion of Georgia and for being a little too enamored with Putin's policies, amongst other things.

Incidentally, I'm curious as to how OWS is portrayed by Fox News, any of you guys have a clear picture?

EDIT: Another Hedges video, this time going toe-to-toe with CBC's bulldog Kevin O'Leary:

The question I asked above was answered when I saw some of Fox's coverage on the OWS. The lengths a major news syndicate will go to vilify protesters as the next generation of troublesome hippies and beatniks with no objective other than to 'STIK IT TO DA MAN' is pretty despicable. I don't consider myself an anti-corporation kind of guy but this smacks of absolute Orwellian media control and I genuinely worry for the people who don't go anywhere else than Fox to get their news on ongoing events. On a related note, here's an interview carried out by a Fox News interviewer that, curiously, never seemed to make it to broadcasting:

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Here's the accompanying article: http://www.observer....nterview-video/

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