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If I may be the first to express concern; I am not sure I could see DoctorAllosaurus with modship. I don't see him as a very active member, and I don't see him as someone who would need to have the position, or be able to use it effectively on the site. Granted, I do not know the alternative candidates, so maybe in that sense he'd be a decent choice, but otherwise, I have to tell you I do not see why he should have the position.

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With great respect to the good Doctor but Shaper does register a point that I also had noticed. To my knowledge, Allosaurus doesn't appear to be very active. If he were to become more active then great, he'd be an excellent candidate. His level of activeness is my only concern. I think he'd be a capable mod otherwise

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How does the amount of posting he does have anything to do with his ability to be a good mod? He's always more or less around, I'd imagine he just also has this thing called a life. I tend to see Steve around about as much as him if not less as far as posting is concerned.

 

Am I not an active member because I choose to only post every now and then, even though I read this place pretty much every day?

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How does the amount of posting he does have anything to do with his ability to be a good mod? He's always more or less around, I'd imagine he just also has this thing called a life. I tend to see Steve around about as much as him if not less as far as posting is concerned.

 

Am I not an active member because I choose to only post every now and then, even though I read this place pretty much every day?

You have misinterpreted me, I was referring to presence. Maybe by some great factor I only get on whenever Allosaurus is not on, but i was simply referring to the time he spends here. I very rarely see him online, whether due to improper timing, who knows. I can only give what I see and this has nothing to do with amount of posts. Although I think you'll find in the application form, how many posts you contribute weekly is a question that is asked, so there is merit to one's post count. I did say that if Allosaurus was on a reasonable amount then he'd be a great moderator.

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The Doc is another great choice. I see nothing wrong. He doesn't post as much as some members, but maybe he will now, and number of posts doesn't equal activity, obviously.

 

He's a great guy and I think he will make a great mod,

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I guess I can see why you guys are skeptic, my activity has slowed down a bit recently. I do check this place two to three times a day though, all I need are some topics I can really sink my teeth into that people besides me will actually post in.

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Doc's always online from what I can see, he's always on that wee online list at the bottom, so I know he's attending here. I have nothing against someone who posts when they have something to say, as opposed to posting for the sake of it. So you've got my vote man.

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Funny, seems like everyone is a mod now.

 

Congrats Doc!

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Eh I guess I'll just concede, poll is too split for my liking and the last thing I want to do is cause some weird rift in the community.

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Being active doesn't necessarily mean to post every single day. Most of my posts are from the staff room, I barely post in other places. He was chosen for a reason, not because we were like "hey, it's time for the Doc to be in the staff room".

 

He is indeed active, he might not post much, but he is enough time online, to merit the position anyways. All the staff voted thumbs up for him as well.

 

Remember, this is not a popularity contest.  Other possible candidates are being evaluated from responses we have seen on the last 2 elections as well.

 

Anyways, I'm not closing this poll until the full week is over.

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It's kind of weird that you're deciding, then posting a poll. Like, what if they get voted no? Do you then just make a topic for every candidate going down the list until the forum agrees with you? That seems kind of time-consuming and counterproductive. Why not just pick a top three or something and then have us vote between them?

 

I don't really see enough reasons either for or against DoctorAllosaurus' modship. The fact that I don't really feel much of his presence in the community might be a problem that others have noted, but maybe I'm also just oblivious. He could make a good mod. I don't know >:

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I also kind of wanted to mention something similar to what Dras said above..

 

If a member submits an application to be a mod, the admins believe they're a good fit for the job, then why the poll? I imagine it's because you want the community to "decide" in a sense, showing their support and/or voicing their doubts.

 

Also maybe because I remember one time... a moderator was chosen without any notice to the community and they (kind of) blew up about it.


What I'm saying is, it's nice for the "community" to get the opportunity to help with the major changes on the forums, including who will be the next moderator, sure.

 

But what I'm also trying to say here is this: If Doc doesn't want to be a moderator anymore since he didn't exactly get the kind of support everyone would want, then by all means, that's fine. And I know it's nice for the community to get to voice their opinions on the matter, but then again, I don't think Doc should feel bad. He willingly applied for the position, the admins discussed it and chose him. What does it matter what the members think? It sort of does, sure, but not enough to really matter, I think, at least..

 

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I guess the point of this whole post is just to say that I think this position should be filled by whomever the admins truly want in the position... If they want DoctorAllosaurus, then so be it, regardless of what certain members think.

 

After all, the administrators should know way more about the place/members than anyone else. :)

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Thanks Dras, that's food for thought. And it's okay if you don't know, you don't have to vote if you don't want to, it's cool.

 

Icy, thanks for your input, I really appreciate it. I think the reason we put our chosen candidates up for vote is to give the forum a chance to speak up if they disagree. Although the staff choose who they think is best, the forum also have a different perspective and may know more about the person than we do, because an application and forum content only reveals so much, you know?

We don't want to make someone a mod who's like, maybe a great member here but a total jerk to SFO members elsewhere, or is perhaps involved with drama. Outside events DO affect the judgement of some, and if we think an applicant can't leave behind personal issues, then clearly they may take it out on whoever is concerned on SFO. It's just finding some kind of balance, and making sure that "what happens on SFO stays on SFO". If someone's abusive offsite then, I guess, they're still abusive.

 

Also we want to avoid the sense that we're "going over the heads of the members", so to speak. I'm not sure about the event you're referring to, perhaps I wasn't a member at that time, but we'd like to prevent the community feeling like they don't matter. It's important for everyone to feel that they CAN disagree with us, there's no problem with that at all and if people are too shy to do it in public, then there's always PM. It's an equality thing. :)

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Great points there. Thanks, Redeemer.

 

I did think of that, sure. Admins might not know about off-site issues or even on-site issues in PM or whatever. But still..

And I get the part about not going over the heads of the members. That makes sense.

 

I don't like that he got so many thumbs-downs, but I guess that's why you put these things up to a vote anyway. ;)

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The "heads up I'll be closing the poll" will be followed by a "do you want to be a mod?" not a "you WILL be chained"

 

Having the community vote between candidates sorta ends up in a popularity contest, and it shouldn't be. We have tried that before, we didn't like the results.

 

The rule of the thumb is, unless the candidate gets more than 50% negative votes, then yes, we go down the list to get the next candidate. And yes, we do have a list, we secretly spy on people's real life and decide whether or not they are crazy enough to be in the staff  , we evaluate many things, not just "who's more active" or "who's more loved by the community", though being active is a big plus.

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But it'll be a popularity contest no matter what the poll format is. If someone really doesn't like the singular candidate you post for some stupid reason, they'll still vote no, just as that person's best friend ever will still probably vote yes. I'd think a multi-candidate poll would make those who don't get voted through feel a little less bad about it too, because it isn't just them alone being dogpiled with NO's from the community :/

 

not to mention we can see if it's a "lesser of many evils" scenerio with the candidates

 

I mean it's still up to you guys but it still seems a little...overcomplicated, maybe.

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True it's not being dogpiled with "No"s, but those kinds of polls can make the person with the least votes feel terrible.  

 

Not saying it's an entirely bad idea, just advocating that little part.

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If it comes to a tie  and we have 2 really good candidates that got the same votes, we do a community tie break. Other than that, we definitely brainstorm inside the staff room mostly because we don't want a popularity contest. You may think it won't come to that, but it will. Most people will end up voting for friends and not a matter of "who's going to be more suited  for the job". Most of the times, the community has never really complained for the picks, this is really the first or second time.

 

Tiebreaks have happened before, remember? one of them was Dras and Fox. 

 

It's a matter of assessing  pros/cons and risks per candidate, like I said before.

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going from what i said i should think the paramount concern for you guys in choosing a new mod is whether that person is on the same page as you as far as what constitutes disruption of the community and how you're supposed to do your moderatorizificating or whatever. that's not something you can put up to a vote by us, but it is essential to whether that person will be a good moderator for what you want to do.

 

i mean, it's not like you're electing the county sheriff here or something.

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Well last time we appointed someone without the "paperwork" so to speak, the community was outraged. :P It really comes down to who you'd be willing to respect as a moderator/admin, and I find that most of our users vote with that in mind, and no so much "omg my frand c:"

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Dat vote bar.

 

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