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Well, seeing how we didn't really get anything "new" out of Nintendo World 2011, it's time for round 2 from the New York and Amsterdam conferences. They both start tomorrow and we're likely to hear of some surprise announcements.

Any thoughts?

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Hopefully Nintendo will reveal something more about the 3DS (i.e.demos, more games, etc :P), or at least somewhat more than we have seen already :)

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Just read Kotaku's livestream, nothing to exciting except that we now know the price ($249) and the release date. Also, no orange 3DS makes me sad.

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3DS will launch on March 27, 2011 at an MSRP of $249.99 in the US.

Europe launch on March 25, 2011, with pricing set by individual retailers. IGN has found a range of £219.99 – £229.99 in the UK.

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3DS will launch on March 27, 2011 at an MSRP of $249.99 in the US.

Europe launch on March 25, 2011, with pricing set by individual retailers. IGN has found a range of £219.99 – £229.99 in the UK.

What. The. Ffff. WHY SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE?!

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Remember, there is no "true" equivalency between currencies. All an exchange rate means is how much of one currency you can buy with another. There are many other factors that go into pricing a product, including local overhead costs, taxes/tariffs, shipping, and pricing sweetspots.

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oh btw that conference was pretty disappointing. I didn't expect anything NEW but this false rumor about a new metroid game got me pretty excited.

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Remember, there is no "true" equivalency between currencies. All an exchange rate means is how much of one currency you can buy with another. There are many other factors that go into pricing a product, including local overhead costs, taxes/tariffs, shipping, and pricing sweetspots.

That's no excuse. eg. I know a couple of EU guys I buy games for because the price difference is extreme. When it becomes cheaper to take a small paypal exchange and percentage rate as well as post the game to another country something is buggered somewhere.

In this case, something along the lines of £150, even with tax and shiping, you are looking at something like £190 tops. Assuming there is no region locking, it will be likely cheaper to import a machine and buy a third party recharger. Again, not something you can hand wave away.

EDIT: Oh, and the machine IS region locked for that exact reason.

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In this case, something along the lines of £150, even with tax and shiping, you are looking at something like £190 tops. Assuming there is no region locking, it will be likely cheaper to import a machine and buy a third party recharger. Again, not something you can hand wave away.

EDIT: Oh, and the machine IS region locked for that exact reason.

Aww... there goes a good plan. :(

And SFRunner, if you think $249 is crazy, £229 is around $360. :(

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Aww... there goes a good plan. :(

And SFRunner, if you think $249 is crazy, £229 is around $360. :(

Aww. No need for the sadface. This is why hacking was invented. We get shafted with the higher price and limited (and hugely delayed) releases, so we shaft them by cracking it and Downloading all the games off torrent.

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Aww. No need for the sadface. This is why hacking was invented. We get shafted with the higher price and limited (and hugely delayed) releases, so we shaft them by cracking it and Downloading all the games off torrent.

Me no know how to do that stuff. :(

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Me no know how to do that stuff. :(

Meh. No worries. Because of the price and the lack of anything good at launch (for us anyway) In about a week to a month the real hackers/pirates will likely have a first generation user friendly hardware or software sollution out. I know a guy who's really into this stuff. Once a good crack is out he will likely be in the know. I'll PM you if anything big comes along that I heard about, and if I remember I will check in on him from time to time, keep you posted.

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oh btw that conference was pretty disappointing. I didn't expect anything NEW but this false rumor about a new metroid game got me pretty excited.

The Metroid rumor might not be entirely off, apparently Samus and Ridley made a cameo in the Dead or Alive trailer...

Edit: Here's that trailer

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Thanks for the video....

Now Team Ninja actually includes samus in dead or alive....it was a matter of time, I suppose.

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The funny thing is me and my friend joked about this before way back in '03. I think we just got trolled by Lady Luck's brother Sir Averages. :trollface:

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$249.99 eh?  That........sucks pretty hard :facepalm:

As advanced as it is, the general public will still view it as a handheld.

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$249.99 eh?  That........sucks pretty hard :facepalm:

As advanced as it is, the general public will still view it as a handheld.

How so?

Firstly: There need to be certain economies of scale before such a product can be sold at a sub-$200 price and still make a profit. The thing has a dual graphics system and a parallax barrier screen driven by it. It will be the first handheld device on the market with this tech, thus the economies of scale aren't there.

I'm actually pretty damn-impressed that they can pack that technology into a sub-$300 product. For comparison, most modern smartphones are $300+ retail (without a cellular plan), and they don't do 3D nor do they have decent GPUs.

Secondly: Nintendo doesn't take loss-leads. While Sony and Microsoft are willing to take a haircut on their products at the beginning, with hopes of making up for it in software, Nintendo is not. That is why the company has so few quarters of loss sine it's IPO.

Thirdly: In raw-currency terms, the US actually has the cheapest price. The Japanese price comes in around $300, while the Euro price is around $350.

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How so?

Firstly: There need to be certain economies of scale before such a product can be sold at a sub-$200 price and still make a profit. The thing has a dual graphics system and a parallax barrier screen driven by it. It will be the first handheld device on the market with this tech, thus the economies of scale aren't there.

I'm actually pretty damn-impressed that they can pack that technology into a sub-$300 product. For comparison, most modern smartphones are $300+ retail (without a cellular plan), and they don't do 3D nor do they have decent GPUs.

Secondly: Nintendo doesn't take loss-leads. While Sony and Microsoft are willing to take a haircut on their products at the beginning, with hopes of making up for it in software, Nintendo is not. That is why the company has so few quarters of loss sine it's IPO.

Thirdly: In raw-currency terms, the US actually has the cheapest price. The Japanese price comes in around $300, while the Euro price is around $350.

Interesting. What happened to-

Remember, there is no "true" equivalency between currencies. All an exchange rate means is how much of one currency you can buy with another.

Your excuse for the inflated EU price is also your defence for the high US price?

A better argument would be that it's the same price as a PSP Go!, but has 3D.

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I qualified that statement with "in raw-currency terms."

And, no, I did not contradict myself. You took the earlier statement out-of-context. The earlier point was about how things are priced, and the factors that lead to the difference, not what the actual difference is. The main point being you can't use one currency's price as the determinant of the price in another currency. What I meant by "no true equivalency" is that almost nothing costs the same in one country than in another. A liter of Milk costs one price in the UK, a different price in the US, and a different price still in China. If a liter of milk costs, for sake of argument, £3 in the UK, it is fallacious to assume that a liter of milk costs $5 (£3 ~ 5 USD) in the US or ¥32 (£3 ~ 32 Yuan) in China just because milk is £3 in the UK.

Basically I was just telling him that he is complaining about paying less than the rest of the world for it. If he went to Japan, converted his money to JPY, bought a 3DS in Japan, came home, and converted back to USD, he'd still have spent $300 on a product he could spend $250 for here. I never disputed that.

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I qualified that statement with "in raw-currency terms."

And, no, I did not contradict myself. You took the earlier statement out-of-context. The earlier point was about how things are priced, and the factors that lead to the difference, not what the actual difference is. The main point being you can't use one currency's price as the determinant of the price in another currency.

Basically I was just telling him that he is complaining about paying less than the rest of the world for it. If he went to Japan, converted his money to JPY, bought a 3DS in Japan, came home, and converted back to USD, he'd still have spent $300 on a product he could spend $250 for here. I never disputed that.

So which is it? You can't claim both simultainously.

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