Star Fox 360

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

Alright, I know I posted this once before, but it never got seen by anyone, and I figured it was an intriguing concept.

Well, here we go, on a mark's views on SF on XB (X3)

I think it'd friggin' sweet to get a Star Fox game on 360!

IMO, it should be like a prequel to Adventures and like retcon parts of it.

Also, it should be about Krystal.

And the follow-up would be a re-done Adventures.

OKAY! Follow me down this long, winding trail:

It'd be like how Resident Evil 2 & 3 are intertwined.

The Krystal Chronicles would involve Krystal's younger life on her homeplanet shortly before it gets destroyed, following into a portion where she tries to save the planet and it's inhabitants. This would entail fighting a bunch of enemies and like destroying some like energy generators that are draining the planet of it's lifeforce. After you destroy enough she would get like a distress call telepathically from her family. Upon arriving, they'd be safe and then a cutscene occurs where everyone talks a bit, then the family somehow incapacitates her and sends her off in a rocket to a safer planet. However, before she totally blacks out she sees Andross and then a bright flash, and then darkness. Flashforward a couple years with a cutscene explaining what went down in the intervening years (Samus-like, I guess is the best way to quickly describe it). Now she gets the distress call from Sauria and the player takes over. Only this time, she does a lot of stuff before being caught. Another flashforward, with the only cutscene being Fox rescuing her (Most likely through a POV shot) and he rest of the game is spent teaming up.

Okay, then the next game is a redone Adventures, and it starts with Fox doing a much-simplified version of Venom. Upon completion the player discovers it was only a VR training sim. We get a cutscene of Fox and crew talking about how they haven't had like any work since Andross fell, when Pepper calls with the Sauria mission. This then leads to a basic training sim for 3rd person controls, led by Peppy (Cuz he's awesome). From here, we get a scene with the Great Fox closing in on Sauria, only to encounter an enemy barricade. Fox leaps in the Arwing, and it's rail-shooter time! Finish this level off with like a Star Destoyer-type boss. From here we play through Adventures, albeit modified (And I dunno like what, I'm not THAT far-thinking ). At the half-way point or so, Fox saves Krystal and it becomes a team adventure, BUT different from The Krystal Chronicles so it's not just a rehash.

Finish in a way that can lead to sequels and actually makes the relationship between Fox and Krystal, er, existant.

It works for the better of the series cuz:

A. Krystal actually gets character and Backstory

B. It improves upon a game that was (Somewhat) controversial

C. It adds more story and character et al to the series

D. It uses simple ideas and concepts, so the argument that the writers can mess it up is mitigated (At least a bit )

Anywho, that took forever and I get the feeling Imma get heck for it but eh, these are my ideas (Patent Pending!)

[Vulvokunvrii]

Sounds pretty awesome (you are tight, it would alot of back-stroy so the game/stroy would actually make sense), but when you mention Team-up with Both Fox and Krystal, would it be a two player as well, or would there also be a two player mode? Im not one of those people who just play games for their multiplayer, i really enjoy awesome stories, environments, characters, personalities and so on. You've got a really awesome idea!

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

Danka.

When I say team-up, I think of an RE style team-up, where you play one character at a time. Single-Player.

Though, perhaps in a future installment!

[Vulvokunvrii]

Danka.

When I say team-up, I think of an RE style team-up, where you play one character at a time. Single-Player.

Though, perhaps in a future installment!

Just becareful with the RE party system becasue in RE 4, Ashley's ai was HORRIBLE!

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

I'm thinking more RE: 0

[Vulvokunvrii]

I'm thinking more RE: 0

?

Waht do you mean?

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

Resident Evil Zero. You play as 2 characters, but only one at a time, but they are always teamed up.

A quick vid will help

[Deploy]

The world would explode before Star Fox is ever given the chance to be on the 360. :P

[ZM Anonymous]

The world would explode before Star Fox is ever given the chance to be on the 360.

i agree

[Demonking44]

Star Fox, on the 360.

I just loled.

Anyway, in all seriousness, if it DID by somekind of Satan magic, it will fail before it even start.

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

Wow, way to read the original post and add something productive to the topic guys.

Oh wait...

But, ya know, I REALLY don't get why you all have decided to be like that. I propose a way to improve upon the series and flesh it out, and you'll have none of it because I put forth the idea of it being on 360.

At the same time, I'd like to thank Reynard for reading the OP and adding some good discussion. He actually helped me to further flesh out the idea! :friends:

[ZM Anonymous]

Wow, way to read the original post and add something productive to the topic guys.

Oh wait...

But, ya know, I REALLY don't get why you all have decided to be like that. I propose a way to improve upon the series and flesh it out, and you'll have none of it because I put forth the idea of it being on 360.

At the same time, I'd like to thank Reynard for reading the OP and adding some good discussion. He actually helped me to further flesh out the idea!

Then you might as well not bother posting this up if you can't handle the negative feedback.

What's with the Superman-esque prologue. Sending her in a rocket before her homeworld gets destroyed? Completely original. Instead of that, how about this: She was a military officer who was told to go to a distant planet for observation. In her path, she comes in contact with Venomian forces where she becomes shipwrecked on Saurian shores. Tribesmen see this as a prophecy and immediately, she is assimilated into their customs. Overtime, she fits into the culture very well. Later in the game, her telepathic powers kick in without her knowing. She's had them the whole time, but she didn't have any idea of it until it's too late (Distress signal from Cerinia). In the sky a star forms (That's what happens when planets explode.) and a single tear rolls down her eye. And I'm sure you know the rest. The prologue was all I cared about.

But there is a good chance you are not gonna read this because I, apparently, am an evil Nay-Sayer and you don't wanna communicate. You wanna bolster your idea and will shun anybody who thinks otherwise

[Demonking44]

Anywany to the point...

It wouldn't work, I'm sorry it just won't. Take a look at Sonic the hedgehog 2006 and observe just how much of a epic fail that game was. That went down hill the moment it even started and got huge amount s of negative comments and feedback on the game. Star fox will most likely get the same if it was made for the xbox 360 or the PS3.

I apologise for being rude, but in all fiarness it was even silly to put Star Fox on the 360 and my honest opinion is that it should stay on the good old Nintendo Wii.

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

'Scool Demon, I can see what you mean. Sonic 06 blew

I just think it'd be cool to try, ya know? And there isn't neccesarily a garuntee it'll fail!

But, I can defnitley see where you are coming from!

The other thing is, how can the Wii's motion controls really be used in SF? Like, I'm not saying it can't be done, but to me SF seems like a game that works best with a classic contorller, you know?

And to ZM: it's not about negative feedback. It's about NO feedback. All you did was look at the topic title and make a decision. I don't mind hearing the weaknesses of my idea(s), heck that's why I posted it, for discussion.

And I'll admit, I may have gotten a bit hot. But nowhere did I insinuate anyone was an "no-good naysayer" I just didn't feel like anyone had actually read it, instead seeing it was about Star Fox on 360 and basing their post off that.

So for you to get all uptight is just stupid. Based on your response, you're right, I DON'T wanna communicate with you. I'd rather discuss the downsides of this with a dude like Demon, who can be polite and not start name-calling and shooting on me.

I would never shun someone for their points, but I believe I will make an exception for you.

Good day, Sir.

[Guest Mr. Nintendo]

The idea seems good but because Krystal is now owned by Nintendo, this ain't ever going to happen, even if Microsoft sold off Rare to Nintendo.

I could imagine Tomonobu Itagaki and Shigeru Miyamoto discussing together about making a Starfox game.

[Demonking44]

'Scool Demon, I can see what you mean. Sonic 06 blew

I just think it'd be cool to try, ya know? And there isn't neccesarily a garuntee it'll fail!

But, I can defnitley see where you are coming from!

The other thing is, how can the Wii's motion controls really be used in SF? Like, I'm not saying it can't be done, but to me SF seems like a game that works best with a classic contorller, you know?

And to ZM: it's not about negative feedback. It's about NO feedback. All you did was look at the topic title and make a decision. I don't mind hearing the weaknesses of my idea(s), heck that's why I posted it, for discussion.

And I'll admit, I may have gotten a bit hot. But nowhere did I insinuate anyone was an "no-good naysayer" I just didn't feel like anyone had actually read it, instead seeing it was about Star Fox on 360 and basing their post off that.

So for you to get all uptight is just stupid. Based on your response, you're right, I DON'T wanna communicate with you. I'd rather discuss the downsides of this with a dude like Demon, who can be polite and not start name-calling and shooting on me.

I would never shun someone for their points, but I believe I will make an exception for you.

Good day, Sir.

That is a very good question.

They will most likely make the new Star Fox game (if that is a possibility) a classic controller game only, since even I won't be able to understand how the wii remote controls will work for the new Star Fox game. However, knowing Nintendo, I am absolutely certain they will think of something to make it work.

I also understand about the idea for Star Fox to be on the Xbox360, but oncer again it just won't work.Plus with the fact, it won't have the same feeling if they managed to put the game on the 360.

Overall, a very good and logical suggestion, but with all honesty and with other loyal Star Fox fans, it just won't work unfortunately.

["User"]

I'm down for anything that expands on Krystal in any way.

[ZM Anonymous]

And to ZM: it's not about negative feedback. It's about NO feedback. All you did was look at the topic title and make a decision. I don't mind hearing the weaknesses of my idea(s), heck that's why I posted it, for discussion.

And I'll admit, I may have gotten a bit hot. But nowhere did I insinuate anyone was an "no-good naysayer" I just didn't feel like anyone had actually read it, instead seeing it was about Star Fox on 360 and basing their post off that.

So for you to get all uptight is just stupid. Based on your response, you're right, I DON'T wanna communicate with you. I'd rather discuss the downsides of this with a dude like Demon, who can be polite and not start name-calling and shooting on me.

I would never shun someone for their points, but I believe I will make an exception for you.

You assumed I just looked at the topic title to make a decision. How do you know I didn't read the OP. You're getting upset about people leaving "no feedback" and you call me "uptight!" So now I'm going to assume that you didn't read my full post because you didn't bother to look back at my interpretation of Krystal's backstory. You complain about people not reading the OP, and you didn't read my full post. Hypocricy thy name is you

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

Dude, I read your post.

You took shots at my prolouge and then set up a different prolouge.

...Which would've been ok, but then you started insinuating things about me

ie. But there is a good chance you are not gonna read this because I, apparently, am an evil Nay-Sayer and you don't wanna communicate. You wanna bolster your idea and will shun anybody who thinks otherwise

Which is bullshit. I am completely fine with people disagreeing about what I put forth, and I NEVER called you an evil nay-sayer or said I didn't wanna communicate. Most of all, it's total Bullshit that I would EVER shun someone for disagreeing with me. I WANT people to disagree with me. I WANT people to find holes in my ideas. It will help me to improve on these ideas.

At this point you're just trying to make personal attacks. You have NO RIGHT to call me a hypocrite.

Just stop, K? I just wanna talk about Star Fox and Xbox with other fans. I didn't start this topic to be personally attacked.

NOW, to get back on topic:

You make some excellent points Mr. N. Those two together would be EPIC.

And probabaly get User on board too, as Tomonobu Itagaki is the DOA guy, right?

And DOA is all about large-chested ladies in small clothing

Thus: Itagaki + Star Fox = Dead or Alive: Corneria (with the signature DOA physics of course )

[Vulvokunvrii]

Resident Evil Zero. You play as 2 characters, but only one at a time, but they are always teamed up.

A quick vid will help

ahh...i seee cool then! *nods*

[Drasiana]

Because the best way to fix the continuity of a Nintendo franchise is by sticking a spinoff game on a console that has nothing to do with the rest of Star Fox. INFALLIBLE.

What's with the infatuation with putting Star Fox on the 360? Nice graphics? The sense that it's somehow more "hardcore"? If the game is good it doesn't MATTER what console it's on and honestly, whether or not the game is actually good is something Star Fox needs to focus on.

[Sluggsnipa]

Because the best way to fix the continuity of a Nintendo franchise is by sticking a spinoff game on a console that has nothing to do with the rest of Star Fox. INFALLIBLE.

What's with the infatuation with putting Star Fox on the 360? Nice graphics? The sense that it's somehow more "hardcore"? If the game is good it doesn't MATTER what console it's on and honestly, whether or not the game is actually good is something Star Fox needs to focus on.

You're Dras from Al?

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

What's with the infatuation with putting Star Fox on the 360? Nice graphics? The sense that it's somehow more "hardcore"? If the game is good it doesn't MATTER what console it's on and honestly, whether or not the game is actually good is something Star Fox needs to focus on.

I want it on 360 cuz:

A. It's my fave console of this generation

B. 360 DOES have better graphics. Imagine the fur effects of Adventures only in HD. SEXY.

C. I just want a new SF game that features Krystal TBH

Besides, getting fresh minds on SF could help the series expand!

[DZComposer]

Alright, I know I posted this once before, but it never got seen by anyone, and I figured it was an intriguing concept.

Well, here we go, on a mark's views on SF on XB (X3)

I think it'd friggin' sweet to get a Star Fox game on 360!

IMO, it should be like a prequel to Adventures and like retcon parts of it.

Also, it should be about Krystal.

And the follow-up would be a re-done Adventures.

OKAY! Follow me down this long, winding trail:

It'd be like how Resident Evil 2 & 3 are intertwined.

The Krystal Chronicles would involve Krystal's younger life on her homeplanet shortly before it gets destroyed, following into a portion where she tries to save the planet and it's inhabitants. This would entail fighting a bunch of enemies and like destroying some like energy generators that are draining the planet of it's lifeforce. After you destroy enough she would get like a distress call telepathically from her family. Upon arriving, they'd be safe and then a cutscene occurs where everyone talks a bit, then the family somehow incapacitates her and sends her off in a rocket to a safer planet. However, before she totally blacks out she sees Andross and then a bright flash, and then darkness. Flashforward a couple years with a cutscene explaining what went down in the intervening years (Samus-like, I guess is the best way to quickly describe it). Now she gets the distress call from Sauria and the player takes over. Only this time, she does a lot of stuff before being caught. Another flashforward, with the only cutscene being Fox rescuing her (Most likely through a POV shot) and he rest of the game is spent teaming up.

Okay, then the next game is a redone Adventures, and it starts with Fox doing a much-simplified version of Venom. Upon completion the player discovers it was only a VR training sim. We get a cutscene of Fox and crew talking about how they haven't had like any work since Andross fell, when Pepper calls with the Sauria mission. This then leads to a basic training sim for 3rd person controls, led by Peppy (Cuz he's awesome). From here, we get a scene with the Great Fox closing in on Sauria, only to encounter an enemy barricade. Fox leaps in the Arwing, and it's rail-shooter time! Finish this level off with like a Star Destoyer-type boss. From here we play through Adventures, albeit modified (And I dunno like what, I'm not THAT far-thinking ). At the half-way point or so, Fox saves Krystal and it becomes a team adventure, BUT different from The Krystal Chronicles so it's not just a rehash.

Finish in a way that can lead to sequels and actually makes the relationship between Fox and Krystal, er, existant.

It works for the better of the series cuz:

A. Krystal actually gets character and Backstory

B. It improves upon a game that was (Somewhat) controversial

C. It adds more story and character et al to the series

D. It uses simple ideas and concepts, so the argument that the writers can mess it up is mitigated (At least a bit )

Anywho, that took forever and I get the feeling Imma get heck for it but eh, these are my ideas (Patent Pending!)

Uhm... No.

Star Fox doesn't need spin-offs right now.

Also, Star Fox on Xbox? WTF?

Giving Krystal her own game will destroy the credibility of the series rather than bolster it. Giving her a backstory won't change the drooling yifftards from being drooling yifftards, and it won't bolster the mainline franchise at all. Especially if the Star Fox team is not present until near the end. In the end, Krystal will have more backstory than anyone else, which is stupid considering that characters like Fox McCloud also have sparse backstories. Your plot idea isn't terrible, but I'd rather see it as a new IP than to shove Star Fox into it.

We've already seen what happens when Star Fox is shoved into a mold in which it does not fit. At the end of SFAd, I was like "This was a Star Fox game? Wut? wut?" as did a lot of fans. It caused a pretty big fanbase rift, too.

The only possible spin-off I see that could work without diluting the series would be a Star Wolf spin-off, but even then it is iffy.

As far as remaking SFAd, tacking on better Arwing missions and re-doing the story a bit still won't help. Think about it: A character from a futuristic Space-faring society ends up on a planet full of Dinosaurs. "Wut?" The idea is just ridiculous. It may have worked as DP, but when Star Fox got shoved into it, it didn't feel right because it wasn't a Star Fox game to begin with.

A Star Fox adventure game could work, but it would have to be developed from the ground-up as a Star Fox game. Using SFAd as a starting point is not a good idea for the reason that it was not a Star Fox game. You'd have to redo so much of it that you may as well start from scratch anyway.

Also:

Because the best way to fix the continuity of a Nintendo franchise is by sticking a spinoff game on a console that has nothing to do with the rest of Star Fox. INFALLIBLE.

What's with the infatuation with putting Star Fox on the 360? Nice graphics? The sense that it's somehow more "hardcore"? If the game is good it doesn't MATTER what console it's on and honestly, whether or not the game is actually good is something Star Fox needs to focus on.

This.

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

Uhm... No.

Star Fox doesn't need spin-offs right now.

Also, Star Fox on Xbox? WTF?

Giving Krystal her own game will destroy the credibility of the series rather than bolster it. Giving her a backstory won't change the drooling yifftards from being drooling yifftards, and it won't bolster the mainline franchise at all. Especially if the Star Fox team is not present until near the end. In the end, Krystal will have more backstory than anyone else, which is stupid considering that characters like Fox McCloud also have sparse backstories. Your plot idea isn't terrible, but I'd rather see it as a new IP than to shove Star Fox into it.

We've already seen what happens when Star Fox is shoved into a mold in which it does not fit. At the end of SFAd, I was like "This was a Star Fox game? Wut? wut?" as did a lot of fans. It caused a pretty big fanbase rift, too.

The only possible spin-off I see that could work without diluting the series would be a Star Wolf spin-off, but even then it is iffy.

As far as remaking SFAd, tacking on better Arwing missions and re-doing the story a bit still won't help. Think about it: A character from a futuristic Space-faring society ends up on a planet full of Dinosaurs. "Wut?" The idea is just ridiculous. It may have worked as DP, but when Star Fox got shoved into it, it didn't feel right because it wasn't a Star Fox game to begin with.

A Star Fox adventure game could work, but it would have to be developed from the ground-up as a Star Fox game. Using SFAd as a starting point is not a good idea for the reason that it was not a Star Fox game. You'd have to redo so much of it that you may as well start from scratch anyway.

First of all, I LOVED Adventures! It improved the series in that now Star Fox can be more than just a rail-shooter and it added to the mythos.

And Sauria works because no one really knows what's out there in space. Personally, I thought it made for an AWESOME locale! I mean, you get lush jungles and varied locales to explore. And the dinos were cool in how they were varied and unique. Besides, a dinosur planet et al is awesome!

Also, it's not a spin-off so much as a connector to the original trilogy from Adventures/Assault that expands the story.

Another thing, is that really, I don't see how it would destroy the credibility of the series. It would add more on to the series.

And Fox already has a backstory in that his dad was an ace pilot, got backstabbed and deaded, and now Fox is an ace pilot who gets revenge. I dun see what can be added on to that sparse model that expands the story. But hey, that's what sequels and prequels are for!

Besides, honestly, Krystal has SO much more potential for backstory and expansion: Telepathic, planet destroyed, shadowy past, Kursed, and most importantly, no backstory explained or (sadly) much character et al.

Think about it, following the original 2, we could get like regular game releases that are new and add more to the mythos.

I guess it would just be more focused on Krystal than previously, but that's a pretty good thing; especially with how Krystal is one of THE most popular characters and has the most poteantial of ANY of the characters for an epic backstory.

It makes sense from a story AND financial viewpoint!

BUT, you do make good points. And show how the fans of pre-GC Star Fox view the series. This is a very important demographic to look into, as they are a big part of the fanbase. Probably like 45-50%.

IDK, these are all really just my ideas (and dreams! ) so yeah, take that how ya will.