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zak mcleod

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oh wait do people theorize about starfox or is that only zelda well what ever any how this forum is dedicated to you telling me what the time line of the starfox games are heres mine,

super starfox- starfox 2 (unrealeased)- starfox 64- starfox adventures- starfox assault- starfox command. and i beleive thats all so tell me your theorys and mods remember im still new

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Star Fox currently has two canons. The reason for this is that SF64 was a series reboot. The N64 track is the current canon.

SNES Track:

Star Fox SNES -> Star Fox 2

N64 Track:

Star Fox 64 [3D] -> Star Fox Adventures -> Star Fox Assault -> Star Fox Command

There are some pretty major differences between the two, even to the point of character name differences.

My current theory is that any new Star Fox game will probably start a new canon track. The N64 Track is messed up pretty bad. SFC's multiple endings mean that it is the terminus of the N64 track, and the developers have stated that no ending is the true canon ending.

There are pretty large holes in both canons. The holes in the SNES canon come from SF2 not being officially released, so no backstory to it was ever published. All we know is that Andross comes back for revenge.

SFAd created many of the holes in the N64 track, many of them have yet to be filled.

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Star Fox currently has two canons. The reason for this is that SF64 was a series reboot. The N64 track is the current canon.

SNES Track:

Star Fox SNES -> Star Fox 2

N64 Track:

Star Fox 64 [3D] -> Star Fox Adventures -> Star Fox Assault -> Star Fox Command

There are some pretty major differences between the two, even to the point of character name differences.

My current theory is that any new Star Fox game will probably start a new canon track. The N64 Track is messed up pretty bad. SFC's multiple endings mean that it is the terminus of the N64 track, and the developers have stated that no ending is the true canon ending.

There are pretty large holes in both canons. The holes in the SNES canon come from SF2 not being officially released, so no backstory to it was ever published. All we know is that Andross comes back for revenge.

SFAd created many of the holes in the N64 track, many of them have yet to be filled.

really cause i always thought that super starfox and super starfox 2 came first but hmm i guess i should keep to theorizing about zelda on zd

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They *technically* came first but if you tried to tie their storylines into that from 64-onward it makes no sense. 64 is pretty much a remake of the first Star Fox, and it continues on from there while everything before was obsolete.

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Dras is right, there are a few similarities between SF SNES and SF64 as far as plot go, but when you look more deeply you see that beyond the character names and Andross invading there's not much similar going on.

In the SNES canon the characters were different ages, the Starfox team themselves were outlaws that had been exiled from Corneria for showing opposition to the army, and Fox's father was said to have died under different circumstances. There's also the comic that introduced characters like Fara Phoenix and Vixy Reinard, and it's debatable wether this is canon at all in the first place.

When the reboot occurred for 64, the storyline itself was similar in the sense that Andross invaded and Starfox were called in to help stop him, but the back story was fleshed out a bit. Now it is revealed that the Star Fox team was started by Fox Mccloud Sr (who was renamed James) and they were betrayed by wingman Pigma Dengar who had defected to Andross. The new Star Fox team was formed by Peppy in response to Andross rising to power, and in comparison to the SNES game the characters were considerably younger and their reputation was pretty much riding on the back of the old team.

There are still holes that bother me though - what are the origins of Star Wolf? How are the Star Fox team such competent Pilots when 3/4 of them are under the age of 19? What did Andross do that was so despicable? How did James McCloud, an ex fighter pilot, manage to fund the research and production of the numerous high tech vehicles the team use?

It's a plot hole minefield, but I'd like to think at least I've given a few samples of how the SNES and N64 stories are different canon completely. I've stayed away from anything else after 64 deliberately, as it gets even more confusing than this, and may no longer be considered Canon at all if 643D acts as a reboot. We'll have to wait and see, I just pray the game does well enough so we can actually see a decent storyline develop!

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How did James McCloud, an ex fighter pilot, manage to fund the research and production of the numerous high tech vehicles the team use?

"James McCloud built this in a CAVE!"

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Fox Sr. never died in the SNES canon. He got transported to another dimension, which you can do yourself if you follow the right path (SF1's secret second ending), but Fox Sr's dimensional travel was caused by a weapon designed by Andross.

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Fox Sr. never died in the SNES canon. He got transported to another dimension, which you can do yourself if you follow the right path (SF1's secret second ending), but Fox Sr's dimensional travel was caused by a weapon designed by Andross.

well that gets me thinking we don't no exactly how andross got rid of James, its very possible and quite an expandable idea....the other dimaention theory

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Fox Sr. never died in the SNES canon. He got transported to another dimension, which you can do yourself if you follow the right path (SF1's secret second ending), but Fox Sr's dimensional travel was caused by a weapon designed by Andross.

Not to mention the fact that in the comic he was traveling through that dimension inside a "inter-steller whale!" O_o

In other news:

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@AJC: That's still speculation. The canon of the games say, for the original Star Fox, he was trapped in another dimension. For the current timeline, in the canon, no one even hints at such; everyone in the game, other than Fox and his ghost hallucinations or whatever, says he's dead.

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The interstellar whale is the only way to travel in an another dimension don't you know?

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I'm pretty sure the space whale comes from an older Argonaut game StarGlider 2. You could capture a space whale in there, so I guess they liked the concept. :?

Besides creatures in space, living in a nebula aren't as far fetched as you think.

Space isn't as hostile as we think ( http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html )

Basically with an air supply and proper pressure on the vital organs and cirulatory system, a human can survive. (http://en.wikipedia....e_activity_suit)

So a creature that has an adapted system could probably live in nebula, since those are gas clouds, with various gases, including oxygen, and probably nutrients. But I'm no scientist :-)

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Besides creatures in space, living in a nebula aren't as far fetched as you think.

Space isn't as hostile as we think ( http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html )

Basically with an air supply and proper pressure on the vital organs and cirulatory system, a human can survive. (http://en.wikipedia....e_activity_suit)

So a creature that has an adapted system could probably live in nebula, since those are gas clouds, with various gases, including oxygen, and probably nutrients. But I'm no scientist :-)

J/K, of course. :P

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