Are you a furry?

[LoneWolf]

In my sense you are a furry because you say you are.

What I am saying is that sometimes people who might have similar interests don't want to label themselves by that and to constantly insist on "closet furs" coming out is annoying

That's it! You don't want to be a fur, you don't have to be. It's entirely up to them, as one cannot solidly define furry.

[Xortberg]

That's it! You don't want to be a fur, you don't have to be. It's entirely up to them, as one cannot solidly define furry.

But again I ask you, what of a guy who says he isn't furry but wanks all the time to furry porn, and exclusively that? Would he be a furry or not? And what of a man who didn't like anthros at all but called himself a furry? There's got to be some sort of qualifications, and there has to be some point of no return.

Also, out of curiosity, what leads you to believe I might be a closet fur? I don't believe I've shown any furry tendencies, other than just being on a Star Fox board. Or was it said jokingly? Just curious is all.

[LoneWolf]

But again I ask you, what of a guy who says he isn't furry but wanks all the time to furry porn, and exclusively that? Would he be a furry or not? And what of a man who didn't like anthros at all but called himself a furry? There's got to be some sort of qualifications, and there has to be some point of no return.

Also, out of curiosity, what leads you to believe I might be a closet fur? I don't believe I've shown any furry tendencies, other than just being on a Star Fox board. Or was it said jokingly? Just curious is all.

Well, certainly there are limits on either end of the spectrum, but if you're unsure, just like anthros, perhaps you just like wolves and wolf art. Then you can define yourself as you want. If you're a creep who faps to foxes all day, then yeah, you're a furry, and a creepy one at that. And unless you like anthro art, then you can't define yourself as one. But the loose terms that define most furries do give most people a choice.

And that comment was said jokingly, to tell the truth. I can't really pick your personality and posts apart in such a way that I can even make you appear furry. You're pretty obviously not a fur, as far as I can tell, although your suspicion about this matter may allude to some sort of fear of discovery.

Honestly, I don't know. You indirectly asked my to analyze you in order to find out if you have shown furry tendencies, and so I did.

[Sabre]

Well guys, this feels more like a debate than a poll, if that's the case, you know what to do.

Right! I'll get the chicken and the toilet brush.

As for closeted-ness. That depends. My brother plays games, but doesn't identify as a gamer. Is he a closeted gamer?

[LoneWolf]

Right! I'll get the chicken and the toilet brush.

As for closeted-ness. That depends. My brother plays games, but doesn't identify as a gamer. Is he a closeted gamer?

No, he's a gamer. Practically everybody's a gamer. The only non-gamers in our generation are the amish. And even they play games. Board games.

We are the gamer generation.

[Drasiana]

But again I ask you, what of a guy who says he isn't furry but wanks all the time to furry porn, and exclusively that? Would he be a furry or not? And what of a man who didn't like anthros at all but called himself a furry? There's got to be some sort of qualifications, and there has to be some point of no return.

He has a furry fetish, undeniably, but that doesn't necessarily mean he has to identify as a furry. You can fap to something without making a community out of your fapping.

And why would someone who doesn't like anthros call themselves a furry? Unless you mean like...non-anthro animals. But even then, who cares? So he wants to be called a furry, let him call himself a furry.

[Fluxy]

In my sense you are a furry because you say you are.

What I am saying is that sometimes people who might have similar interests don't want to label themselves by that and to constantly insist on "closet furs" coming out is annoying

Wow, derp, I meant reasoning as in how one is, awww forget it. None of this matters anyways. XD

Oh noooooo, someone is a furry... Lol. If you are going somewhere that might be an issue, well then, just don't call yourself one if you are. Like, even in a sexual sense, everyone has preferences, and everyone has odd and really weird turn ons. Jobs won't ask for your preferences, and good friends shouldn't care what yours are, and if they care enough to ask, -should- care enough to be understanding.

People are themselves before a label, and just allowing labels to dictate your view on them is simply rather silly.

[Xortberg]

Well, certainly there are limits on either end of the spectrum, but if you're unsure, just like anthros, perhaps you just like wolves and wolf art. Then you can define yourself as you want. If you're a creep who faps to foxes all day, then yeah, you're a furry, and a creepy one at that. And unless you like anthro art, then you can't define yourself as one. But the loose terms that define most furries do give most people a choice.

Then my nitpicky argument holds some water. As I said earlier, I do generally agree with you on the matter, so I was just kind of playing Devil's Advocate here

And that comment was said jokingly, to tell the truth. I can't really pick your personality and posts apart in such a way that I can even make you appear furry. You're pretty obviously not a fur, as far as I can tell, although your suspicion about this matter may allude to some sort of fear of discovery.

Honestly, I don't know. You indirectly asked my to analyze you in order to find out if you have shown furry tendencies, and so I did.

I figured as much. User mentioned it, but didn't put it into any sort of context so I was curious.

[Asper Sarnoff]

By my definition, if you for some reason like anthromorpic animals, then you're a furry, to a bigger or lesser degree. And as such, I'd consider myself furry too.

[myu]

I have to say, I wasn't expecting much from this thread (which I guess was silly?), but on the whole it's been pretty educational. The only thing remotely close to a definition of a furry (which was pretty much just "they are terrible people and sexual deviants don't go near them" and "if you like anthros, you're a furry - no ands, ifs, or buts") has come from friends who either despise furries or are furrophobes because they dated one and it was a bad experience. Since I've started drawing Star Fox fan art, I've actually had to cut off ties with one of my friends because he was on my ass about it all the time, and I ended up having to cuss another friend out because he wouldn't shut up about it either.

I never knew that there were so many fine lines in the fandom. Now, having read the last 4 pages, I can safely and assuredly say that I am not a furry and just like drawing anthros. Thanks for helping me with my "identity crisis." :panic:

[Harlow]

It really depends what you consider as a furry. A lot of artists agree that just an affinity to anthro art isn't neccesarily a furry. I think most agree that one's a furry if it's drawn to the conventions/fursuiting or if it's drawn towards it sexually to the point of fetish. I may be wrong, but that's my POV.

[Sabre]

I have to say, I wasn't expecting much from this thread (which I guess was silly?), but on the whole it's been pretty educational. The only thing remotely close to a definition of a furry (which was pretty much just "they are terrible people and sexual deviants don't go near them" and "if you like anthros, you're a furry - no ands, ifs, or buts") has come from friends who either despise furries or are furrophobes because they dated one and it was a bad experience. Since I've started drawing Star Fox fan art, I've actually had to cut off ties with one of my friends because he was on my ass about it all the time, and I ended up having to cuss another friend out because he wouldn't shut up about it either.

I never knew that there were so many fine lines in the fandom. Now, having read the last 4 pages, I can safely and assuredly say that I am not a furry and just like drawing anthros. Thanks for helping me with my "identity crisis."

The thing with 'furrophobes' (they afraid of furro? ) is that it's a case of acceptible targets. This was touched on in a thread a little while back, but generally speaking now "the durhurs" and "the hurhurs" are no longer acceptible targets, they move onto the next in line. At present, one of those groups is furries.

[myu]

O_o You know, I think you can just say black people or African Americans >>

But it really depends where you are. In some places racism still happens on the internet and off and no one really bats an eye at it, same goes for homosexuals. As for furries being a target, I'm not sure if that goes very far beyond the internet. Maybe I just don't know that many furries IRL or go to enough conventions or I'm not involved enough in that community to notice it, but there are a lot of other potential targets that I think would take precedence over someone who likes to dress up as an animal, or may or may not fap to a picture of [insert anthropomorphic animal of choice here]. To me, that's kind of like a person who's madly in love with some unrealistic anime girl that will never exist, or some chick who has Edward Cullen up on a pedestal and compares boys to him. Sure, they get made fun of but I'm not aware of any hate crimes that have been committed against them.

Also lol, I didn't know what to call it besides furrophobe xD

[kkstarfox]

Yeah twihards are another subject entirely... And the older women (like 40+) who are twihards are even scarier... But what is a furry? Hmmm... Well like it has been said you can identify with the fandom, like to draw, write, or look/ read about anthro characters and not be a furry. I can might like to write about cannibals, or knights, or dogs but that doesn't make me one. I would say in a general sense you are a furry if you identify your self as one, or if you are signed up or have any profile in an furry sight - you are a furry Because by virtue you have identified something you do as furry.

["User"]

Guys could we keep some of the references to things like fapping a bit less obvious? It's become a little awkward for some members.

Try and tone down some of the more mature concepts in your wording. :)

[Redeemer]

Awkward intimacy topic is awkward.

[Sabre]

You know, I think you can just say black people or African Americans >> But it really depends where you are. In some places racism still happens on the internet and off and no one really bats an eye at it, same goes for homosexuals. As for furries being a target, I'm not sure if that goes very far beyond the internet. Maybe I just don't know that many furries IRL or go to enough conventions or I'm not involved enough in that community to notice it, but there are a lot of other potential targets that I think would take precedence over someone who likes to dress up as an animal, or may or may not fap to a picture of [insert anthropomorphic animal of choice here]. To me, that's kind of like a person who's madly in love with some unrealistic anime girl that will never exist, or some chick who has Edward Cullen up on a pedestal and compares boys to him. Sure, they get made fun of but I'm not aware of any hate crimes that have been committed against them. Also lol, I didn't know what to call it besides furrophobe xD

I don't get that line of reasoning. It's ok to bully them because at least you are not putting them in death camps? I can only speak for my local fur meet which I attend on rare occations, and they have banned from various bars, pubs and clubs. I wasn't there when any of these bans were put in place, and I've never really cared enough to look into it, but unless some serious shit went down, I don't know why a place would turn away x number of paying customers other than finding out they were furry. I wouldn't say furry is limited to the internet.

As for the crazy anime fan, I have come to understand why those people do what they do, to an extent. I don't want to derail the topic, but it will suffice to say that some most likely have a real reason for doing so.

The 'dont mention fapping' rule is dumb. The topic is loaded for that kind of talk, and when you consider we have at least 1 anti fur here who loves to rant about how perverted and evil they are, it's to be expected unless you define your terms early on.

[Fluxy]

By my definition, if you for some reason like anthromorpic animals, then you're a furry, to a bigger or lesser degree. And as such, I'd consider myself furry too.

That is what I always thought as it of too. XD There really is no 'pure' definition in it either, but that trait seems to be in all proclaimed 'furries', so I called myself as such. X3

But everyone is different in defining it.

And Red, that is the smartest thing anyone has said ever in this topic.

[LoneWolf]

Alright, so lets get some facts straight here. For one, furries are not next on the governmental chopping block, after gays and African-Americans. That's just making a mountain out of a molehill (or foxhole, as it is in this case). They're more along the lines of something that people dislike, similar to, say, angry drivers. Angry drivers are generally disliked, and are the center of jokes. So are furries. And people are usually fine around angry drivers or furries IRL, unless you're driving with them or discussing furry things, in which case people begin to feel awkward.

Another thing. We're not going to be able to discus furries without covering mature subjects in our posts, as is the nature of the fandom. Lighten up, or move this to the pub. That's just how it's going to be, if you want to have any sort of intelligent discussion on furries.

Also, lol at how we appear to be arguing over something we generally agree on. It is funny to me, how we all present counter points on the same side of an argument.

[Steve]

Even the pub has a limit with what it can be discussed. I mean, you can always say ".....and sexually attracted to them" instead of "....and fapping/wank". The message does get through, but at least we won't be blamed for psychological harm to early teens we have in the forum , sorry, we are subject to random BS if we are not careful.

It's all natural and stuff (sexuality aspects of human nature)...buuut, just give it a thought for a second, we have some parents sneaking around the forum sometimes. Using the word "sexuality" instead of a slang of "masturbation" kinda keeps us low profile, and still something a random early teenager hears about everyday. I dunno, maybe I am overreacting a little bit, but you can't be too careful sometimes, right? The extend of the meaning is acceptable in the forum and goes ok with the rules, the literal meaning, however, could be deviated by our children around here.

At any rate, we have a limit on how mature topics can get. So far, things are OK, just don't "dig" too much into sexual facts.

[Redeemer]

Allow me also add: no yiff. I'm watching. This topic I mean. Not the... yeah you know what. *leaves*

[Steve]

There's obviously not yiff involved directly, there's only the idea of yiff, which itself is not a rule breaker. I mean, we are an all age forum, weight your comments on that. That's all I ask.

[Drasiana]

The thing with 'furrophobes' (they afraid of furro? ) is that it's a case of acceptible targets. This was touched on in a thread a little while back, but generally speaking now "the darkies" and "the gays" are no longer acceptible targets, they move onto the next in line. At present, one of those groups is furries.

Uhhhh no. No one is, or has ever had, their rights taken away for being a furry. Furries are allowed to marry. Furries are allowed to vote. Furries were never sold into slavery. Have you ever stopped to think that your furmeet group has been banned from these places for behavioral/dress code reasons*? The fact that you even admit to having "never cared enough to actually look into it" just pulled the carpet out from under your arguement.

By the way, darkie is still a racial slur.

_{*yes, a fancy restaurant should be allowed to "say no" to a group of people wearing unweildy giant animal suits, as should any manner of club where the suits may actually pose a danger}

Also,

we have at least 1 anti fur here who loves to rant about how perverted and evil they are

uh who was doing that, exactly?

Even the pub has a limit with what it can be discussed. I mean, you can always say ".....and sexually attracted to them" instead of "....and fapping/wank". The message does get through, but at least we won't be blamed for psychological harm to early teens we have in the forum , sorry, we are subject to random BS if we are not careful.

It's all natural and stuff (sexuality aspects of human nature)...buuut, just give it a thought for a second, we have some parents sneaking around the forum sometimes. Using the word "sexuality" instead of a slang of "masturbation" kinda keeps us low profile, and still something a random early teenager hears about everyday. I dunno, maybe I am overreacting a little bit, but you can't be too careful sometimes, right? The extend of the meaning is acceptable in the forum and goes ok with the rules, the literal meaning, however, could be deviated by our children around here.

At any rate, we have a limit on how mature topics can get. So far, things are OK, just don't "dig" too much into sexual facts.

Mature warning get? Using "grown up terms" doesn't really change what we're saying. Hell, when I was a kid, I was MORE grossed out by the word "penis" than ding-dong, willy, schlong, wang, etc. (which had comedic value at the time, which is part of the reason why I think people are using "fap" so liberally...it's a silly word).

Discussing it within this context I don't think it's a problem. It becomes a problem when some manner of solicitation is involved. No matter what words we're using we're still talking about guys that jack it to dog girls, so if we're worrying about anything it's the subject matter of the topic...something inevitable in a topic about furries, which you'd think User would catch onto considering he likes to repeat this topic so often. I don't think it's that bad, as long as no one's all "hey kid wanna buy some yiffs murr hurr". Guess it's your guys' call though, that's my two cents *shrug*

edit: GDI ninja posts still happen in full reply mode

[Steve]

I totally agree, 1000% on your statement. Thing is, we don't want to deal with angry parents. It's pretty easy to get our forum upside down because of an angry parent making a call to our host.

I personally don't mind the subject.

[Sarita]

We're just being considerate of users with parents who might not like that kind of conversation, is all. We can't afford the price to even take a lawsuit to court. So we would have to shut down if that happened.